Old-Skool vs Combat-Spyro

Sazex · Jan 01, 2008 1:29 AM

Old skool is better in my opinion because the scenery is great and the gameplay,Especially the scenery, and spyro is a little more skinnier in the old ones and plus I like the story a lot better. The new ones are ok based on the gameplay... but spyro is a little more different looking in the new ones and in different I mean, no offense to anyone, ugly.

ratchet · Jan 01, 2008 10:25 AM

Sasek, its the opposite when it comes to what i think.
Krome have mainly based it on the story and wipped up some gameplay which is fun for a while but in the end just repeates and repeats itself.
Fungeek, just because i dont like the new spyros, doesn't mean im not a true spyro fan.
Old skool is much better than new-combat

Clawtooth35 · Jan 02, 2008 1:24 AM

what was meant by:

"I don't think you are speeking the truth"

Is that she/he thought that what you were saying was wrong. She/He didn't say that you were lying and just playing devil's advocate for the hell of it. He/She was merely stating a counterpoint to verrefy and give a reason for her own (To my mind correct) oppinion.

Anyway, my opinion on this matter is that the new spyro is more of a fighting game than the old spyro for example,

Old-Flame/Charge enemy one or twice and they turn into a magic and shiny ball of light which then goes towards giving you power-ups and currency to pay moneybags with.

New-Hit enemy a bunch of times with breath and meele attacks and they drop things which give you new abilities.

There is a distinct difference in that, the new Spyro is more of a combat based game with powreups being perminent and payed for by points. The old Spyro had a more structured storyline with multiple storylines for each world and character and, was non-liner, you could visit any world in any order you wanted, even (in the origional) you could do boss battles before finishing the actual levels in the area.

ratchet · Jan 02, 2008 10:54 AM

Ofcource, the originals weren't based on combat at all, just look at Super Mario 64, it only takes one hit for him to finish off goombas and other stuffs.
Sure, killing enemies was easy, but thats how it was meant to be.

Pip · Jan 02, 2008 10:55 AM

I like them both, but I must be honest and say that I like the new design better - it honestly makes more sence to me as an artist.
Look closely at the two different designs, and you'll probably see what I mean.
The old design of spyro wasn't REALLY good (as in good design - not talking about the cuteness factor here), His body just didn't make sence in anyway.
The joints where out of place, he didn't even have an elbow, and his legs were able to do moves, that Ive only seen on carcasualties. And then there was the eyebrows... I won't get started on to many of the faultls, because there are quite many, but this was just some of the things that made me stop drawing him until the new Spyro came about.

ratchet · Jan 02, 2008 10:58 AM

wait, i need to see a picture of old spyro to see what his faults are...

Pip · Jan 02, 2008 11:29 AM

Just seach aorund the net, it's not hard to find a pic of him - there are dussins right here in the forum,

ratchet · Jan 03, 2008 1:03 AM

yeah, he doesn't have any elbows XD. alright....
New Spyro-2
OLd Spyro-43545356432342312

HEs catching up, lol XD

spyro dragon · Mar 22, 2008 3:07 AM

Clawtooth35 wrote:

what was meant by:
"I don't think you are speeking the truth"
Is that she/he thought that what you were saying was wrong. She/He didn't say that you were lying and just playing devil's advocate for the hell of it. He/She was merely stating a counterpoint to verrefy and give a reason for her own (To my mind correct) oppinion.
Anyway, my opinion on this matter is that the new spyro is more of a fighting game than the old spyro for example,
Old-Flame/Charge enemy one or twice and they turn into a magic and shiny ball of light which then goes towards giving you power-ups and currency to pay moneybags with.
New-Hit enemy a bunch of times with breath and meele attacks and they drop things which give you new abilities.
There is a distinct difference in that, the new Spyro is more of a combat based game with powreups being perminent and payed for by points. The old Spyro had a more structured storyline with multiple storylines for each world and character and, was non-liner, you could visit any world in any order you wanted, even (in the origional) you could do boss battles before finishing the actual levels in the area.

well the quote pretty much explanes the spyro games old spyro is about the fun and new spyro is the way of fighting. [if there were more level in LOS it be just as good as the old spyro IMO]

ratchet · Mar 23, 2008 1:06 AM

Under Game_Girls rules i am not alowed to say anything bad about TLOs but...
If in TLOS you could play any level in any order, the levels were shorter but thee were more, they were less linear, you could hover and there was more platforming, the bosses were funner, there is more replay value it would be a quit good game

Oh and improve the music

Rurikredwolf · Mar 23, 2008 1:40 AM

I like both. Personally, I love mindless fun games, but I like games with an serious storyline as well. When I am *bleep*ed: LOS....kill stuff. Happy: Old, since everything is goofy. (No offense, but I just thought it was. It must be me and my insane mind O_o)

ratchet · Mar 23, 2008 1:55 AM

Kind of Goofy, but the enemies werent really ver "evil"... i dnt know

cynderfan · Mar 23, 2008 7:05 AM

SpyroGirl101 wrote:

This poll doesn't make any sense, because there is only one true Spyro, and that is the origonal trilogy! I don't care what anyone says, because what I say is right! This ugly, big-nosed, crooked-mouthed, purple monster looks nothing like this cute little purple dragon!

I disagree there the new spyro(combat)is actually a challenge!not old spyro it is more ya ya ya i beat the level oh-no a baddie *flame*dead hey a froggie yay imean :-| :-| :-|
but new spyro it dosn't take one ity flame to kill a enemy also this one is older me like :*bleep*in: but i stall like all spyro game's

ratchet · Mar 23, 2008 7:30 AM

Your post didn't really make that much sense, but because your 9 your OK, and can i ask you... have you even played the original games? No i am not being rude i am just asking...
Anyway, as i've said 1000000 times, the originals were not supposed to have hard enemies, they were there to just stop you getting from here to there, like an obstacle, not really as a fight dummy. But yeah, it might of been a bit enjoyable if enemies were harder, so i dont fully disagree with you. "also this one is older me like" this is what i didn't understand, are you saying that Spyro looks older?
Anyway, thats just my opinion, i am not bashing TLOS

PS: That is the cutest picture of TLOS spyro i have ever seen Spyrogirl101, choose an uglier one lol XD. The original Spyro pic is also probably not the best either in terms of cuteness.

depaul · Mar 24, 2008 2:42 PM

i dont mind the new combat, i just wish they would brake it up a little. its just really repetitive. finding stuff may seem boring, but getting to each egg/orb/dragon is where the variety comes in. its not what you're after in the original spyro games, its how you get to it. So it may seem like finding 40 orbs would get old, but its really a different challenge each time.

ratchet · Mar 25, 2008 4:52 AM

Yeah, when people say collecting they alawys think your running around looking for things (which WAS spyro 1 but Spyro 1 was special for its own reasons)... I wouldn't mind a bit of aea to explore while combating, that would be beter i recon, instead of a straight linear path.

dragonsb · Mar 25, 2008 4:06 PM

I voted old-skool Spyro because I don't even like Spyro fighting and flaming all the time and for a long time just to defeat an enemy. In the first Spyro games, we needed to flame one time for defeat an enemy.

Other reason: I prefer the old-skool because it's the real identity of our little purple dragon. As someone said, the old Spyro is cutest than the new Spyro.

Although the new Spyro looks more "hero" than in the previous games, I still prefer the old Spyro. wink

sc27 · Jul 23, 2008 8:06 PM

I MISS THE CLASIC

Taco Godess · Jul 23, 2008 9:05 PM

I chose both the same.

Truthfully, I actually like the new games more because they have better graphics, they're harder, spyro has better attacks, cynder is in them, and I like the new sparx more. But I still love both series! There's not a single spyro game that I hate, because I try to find the good things about each game instead of going on and on about the bad things!

Old:
STD: The gameplay and bosses were great!
RR/GG: They added some great characters and improved the gameplay, not to mention Spyro had a cute voice!.
YOTD: My second favorite - More great characters, some playable,great minigames, great bosses, and Spyro still had that cute voice!

New:
ANB: Better graphics, great voice actors, Cynder was in it, harder enemies, Spyro was stronger, Sparx looked better and was funnier, great storyline, and the guardians were in it.
ETD: My current favorite - Still had good graphics and voice actors, Cynder was in it, even harder enemies, Spyro was even stronger, Sparx had a better voice and was even funnier, the four guardians were in it, great bosses, Dragon Time, Hunter appears at the end, and the Chroniclere was in it.
DotD: Will most likely be my favorite - Two player, most likely great voice actors, Cynder has a large roll, they're older, Malefor appears, Cynder has cool attacks, the enemies/ bosses look and sound harder, you can fly, Hunter looks amazing, and Ignitus has a large roll.

I think both Spyro's are cute. I've never thought he was ugly (even though his head is a little bulgy in ETD and his face looks kind of odd in AHT), and I think that big noses, puppy god eyes, and slightly crooked mouths are cute on a dragon.

Oh course there is only "one true Spyro", because he's never turned into a different dragon!!! Sure, his voice, looks, and personality changed, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a different dragon! And he's not an impostor, because the new Spyro never tried to act like the old one!

spyromaster330 · Jul 24, 2008 9:02 AM

I like them both the same but sometimes i like old spyro more and sometimes i like new spyro more. It just depends on what mood im in. Right now i like Old Spyro a bit better.

ratchet · Jul 24, 2008 9:15 AM

Taco Godess wrote:

Truthfully, I actually like the new games more because they have better graphics, they're harder, spyro has better attacks, cynder is in them, and I like the new sparx more. But I still love both series!

Before I Start, i'm not flaming anyone or anything, i'm just sharing my opinion....
1.Better Graphics- Its obvious that TLOS would be better him, being made so much later
2.Harder- ANB i didn't find very hard at all actually, actually pretty easier, TEN i found super hard. But i wouldn't find hardness to be a good trait really, i mean i wouldn't find easy a good trait either, the balance between the two is the best, and the originals really did that well.
3.Spyro has better attacks-I wouldn't find this much of a good trait, sure you really get to kick into action more, but i liked the more broad variety of the originals, and the fact that you had to do things to earn your attacks.
4.Cynder and the new Sparx- i liked the old characters more, but this is pure opinion.

Old:
STD: The gameplay and bosses were great!
RR/GG: They added some great characters and improved the gameplay, not to mention Spyro had a cute voice!.
YOTD: My second favorite - More great characters, some playable,great minigames, great bosses, and Spyro still had that cute voice!

STD: The fact that it was the first game (the first video game i ever played, i grew up with it, it was really good for its time, its still fun, in particuarlar i like its big worlds and its collecting, but mostly the nostalgia)
RR/GG: pretty much the same reasons as you
YOTD: Yep, same

New:
ANB: Better graphics, great voice actors, Cynder was in it, harder enemies, Spyro was stronger, Sparx looked better and was funnier, great storyline, and the guardians were in it.
ETD: My current favorite - Still had good graphics and voice actors, Cynder was in it, even harder enemies, Spyro was even stronger, Sparx had a better voice and was even funnier, the four guardians were in it, great bosses, Dragon Time, Hunter appears at the end, and the Chroniclere was in it.
DotD: Will most likely be my favorite - Two player, most likely great voice actors, Cynder has a large roll, they're older, Malefor appears, Cynder has cool attacks, the enemies/ bosses look and sound harder, you can fly, Hunter looks amazing, and Ignitus has a large roll.

ANB:I found the pure gameplay fun for a bit, but overall repetative.
Better graphics: See above
Great Voice Actors: Voice actors dont make a game....
Cynder: See above
Harder Enemies: Spyro games didn't need enemies which took longer to kill, enemies were just a brief part of the game.
Spyro was stronger: I also dont care if spyro was stronger or not, but when you think about it, Spyro was stronger in the originals, he was so badass that one charge or flame could finish off an enemy, while TLOS Spyro has to do like 5 combos to kill 1 enemy.
Sparx and Guardians: Look above
Great Storyline: I agree, but no reason to reboot
TEN:You had the same reasons......
Great bosses: I found them terrible actually, not only were they just the same models as in ANB, but they weren't fun, just hard.
DRagon Time: I liked it....
Hunter in the end: There was hunter all over spyro 2 and 3
Chronicler: Characters again...
DOTD: Looks good..... i dont know yet

I think both Spyro's are cute. I've never thought he was ugly (even though his head is a little bulgy in ETD and his face looks kind of odd in AHT), and I think that big noses, puppy god eyes, and slightly crooked mouths are cute on a dragon.

Speak for yourself

Oh course there is only "one true Spyro", because he's never turned into a different dragon!!! Sure, his voice, looks, and personality changed, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a different dragon! And he's not an impostor, because the new Spyro never tried to act like the old one!

He is an imposter, because he's a whole different character which just uses the same title, and fails miserably.
And i change my mind, the true Spyro is the original Spyro.

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 24, 2008 10:38 PM

The problem isn't that you're sharing your opinion. It's that you share your opinion a million times over and bash the new series in the process *facepalm*

I'm not gonna start arguing with you on the matter at all. Not worth the effort. However, I have to note the fact that I didn't get what you meant when you kept saying "see above" or "look above". I could care less what you said about Cynder(I'm not too fond of her either), but I didn't get what you said about the guardians. And I'm curious as to your opinion on them. Surely you can admit the guardians are better than the old series dragons and overall they have great personalities(or at least the ones you like)? I have recently resolved to try to be friends with you, but I need to know more of your specific opinions on the LoS characters. Try to set aside the fact that it's "ZOMG the evil reboot why'd they take old spyro away!!!11!" (albeit I disagree with you a lot on whether the reboot was necessary or not), and just judge it as its own series and don't treat the characters unfairly just for being a part of the reboot. Just judge the characters for who they are.

And note that your "impostor" comment is JUST YOUR OPINION. I actually like the new series much more and I don't think he's an impostor, because he's not trying to mimick the old Spyro and it's its own series, and therefore a different character. Don't state your opinion as if it's fact, okay?

Blech. I'm sleepy. I can't make a proper post at this time of night x_x. Maybe I'll have more to say tomorrow.

ratchet · Jul 25, 2008 11:59 AM

The problem isn't that you're sharing your opinion. It's that you share your opinion a million times over and bash the new series in the process *facepalm*

And if people get offended, they shouldn't. This topic is about Old Skool Vs Combat Spyro, and thats exaculy what i'm arguing smile

I'm not gonna start arguing with you on the matter at all. Not worth the effort. However, I have to note the fact that I didn't get what you meant when you kept saying "see above" or "look above". I could care less what you said about Cynder(I'm not too fond of her either), but I didn't get what you said about the guardians. And I'm curious as to your opinion on them. Surely you can admit the guardians are better than the old series dragons and overall they have great personalities(or at least the ones you like)?

Never mind, i was just saying that no game is better because it has a certain character, thats 100% opinion, the character might be better if its more deep, immaginative, but really, itall does come down to opinions.
But yeah, the characters in TLOS are alot more detailed than the originals (obviously because of the graphical differences) and they have big name talents, but i'd give in to the fact that the TLOS characters do seem to have more of a personality, and are deeper, and are hence "better than the original characters.
Yet i guess i like the originals characters because i grew up with them, and the new characters are just part of a series that i dispise, and hence do not like them more.

In full, the main thing i'm trying to say is that its hard to put who are the better characters, theres a very fine line.
But in fact, the TLOS characters ARE probably better

Try to set aside the fact that it's "ZOMG the evil reboot why'd they take old spyro away!!!11!" (albeit I disagree with you a lot on whether the reboot was necessary or not), and just judge it as its own series and don't treat the characters unfairly just for being a part of the reboot. Just judge the characters for who they are.

Set aside the fact that the Topic is supposed to be one which compares the two series, i'd have to agree with you here, my judging of the characters of TLOS does become more negative seeing i dispise the series in full, but no, i dont say things like "The New Character sucks because the new series does", but i think you know that.
I'm only human, and most humans are biased, just atleast i'm not as biased as some people.

And note that your "impostor" comment is JUST YOUR OPINION. I actually like the new series much more and I don't think he's an impostor, because he's not trying to mimick the old Spyro and it's its own series, and therefore a different character. Don't state your opinion as if it's fact, okay?

I never said it was fact, i said at the start of my post that i'm sharing my opinion, believe me, i dont think i'm always right.
I just think hes an imposter because he's an intirely different dragon, but uses Spyro's Name and logo, it should of been an intire different franchise altogether instead of a reboot.

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TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 25, 2008 12:00 PM

I voted new, because it's genre, style, and storyline appeal to me much more than the old.
I prefer darker games, and I have to say, I like the new look simply for the reason that it's more dragonish (to me.) and like Pip said, the old didn't make as much sense. And I loved his big eyes big_smile .
In terms of gameplay, granted it was a little repeditive at times, but I went crazy for ages just bashing the heck out of Apes, and found it fun.
The graphics are much better, though, (yes, I know the graphical capabilities of the PS1 were limited) and much more work seems to have been put into the bonds and personalities of the characters...at least compared to a lot of the original characters.
The models for the elder dragons are, as Ignitus's#1fan said, way better than the old ones (am I the only one who thinks it's a little TOO weird that dragons grew from being quadrupedal to bipedal? XD).
Uhhh...I think that's it...meh.

ratchet · Jul 25, 2008 12:16 PM

am I the only one who thinks it's a little TOO weird that dragons grew from being quadrupedal to bipedal? XD

Don't you believe in evolution Maniaconwheels? lol.
But yeah, they're supposed to be different timelines so.....

and much more work seems to have been put into the bonds and personalities of the characters...at least compared to a lot of the original characters.
The models for the elder dragons are, as Ignitus's#1fan said, way better than the old ones

Possibly because again of the capabilities of the PS1, and the fact that The originals were alot more gameplay based than character/story based. but i se what you mean.
I honestly think that some of those elder dragons were way good for a game 10 years old....
http://www.spyroworld.net/wiki/Image:Cyprin.jpg

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