A Non-Cliche Death

Sora · Aug 12, 2009 8:55 PM

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If they are going to be any deaths, I want them to be interesting and shocking!

What do you think? (about cliche deaths, this particular death, etc)

Spynder42 · Aug 12, 2009 9:03 PM

I HATED Ignitus dying. Nonono. And everyoneee knew anyway. It was really cliche and predictable.

Andy123 · Aug 12, 2009 9:21 PM

yes but it was epic and thrilling. And he did not really die, now he is da chronicler. By the way I did not think he would die

Sora · Aug 13, 2009 1:21 AM

Andy123 wrote:

yes but it was epic and thrilling. And he did not really die, now he is da chronicler. By the way I did not think he would die

I think it's even more lame that he didn't really die.

TornWings · Aug 17, 2009 6:49 PM

Then what would make it a good death? You don't really specify.

DarkMaster · Aug 17, 2009 7:40 PM

why did ignitus have to die? you could see it coming a mile away! *speaks in wise voice* the old wise man always dies at the end!

Neotyguy40 · Aug 20, 2009 1:44 AM

As much as expected deaths are boring and easy to see, it's hard to make a non-cliche death without everyone going, "Wtf? What the hell just happened?"

I still wish they weren't cliched.

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Aug 20, 2009 6:40 AM

I fail to see how he died in his own element when he should be the one most durable against it, and WHY they didn't just fly over the flames.

Akon · Aug 20, 2009 11:47 AM

He probably WAS the most durable against it, but that doesn't make him invincible to it. I feel Malefor should have killed him rather than a pointless death that could have been prevented.

Jay Tanoshi · Aug 21, 2009 4:23 AM

Yeah, one thing about Fantasy related stuff is that the oldest (and usually wisest) character usually dies before the movie, book, game, or whatever ends. Not impossible to avoid, but it would take a bit of clever thinking if you wish to avoid any cliche deaths. We pretty much saw Ignitus' death coming due to the facts he is indeed the oldest and living (...Really, I think the Chronicler was dead the whole time) good character in the game. His death was indeed a downer, but he did do it to save Spyro and Cynder's lives, so it's kind of understandable, but yeah, as Akon said, would've been better if Malefor fought Ignitus and killed him...though that would lead to some slight complications...maybe. Depends on your P.O.V on Ignitus' death.

However...
I don't think Ignitus would stand less than a minute against Malefor. I really like Ignitus, but... I mean, Malefor is practically A LOT older than Ignitus, right? I don't remember much of the storyline, but didn't they say Malefor was the first Purple Dragon? If that's the case and other Purple Dragons appeared after Malefor...but didn't make it, he would have to be older? I just don't see Ignitus actually living THAT long...

Akon · Aug 21, 2009 7:00 AM

Perhaps turning evil made him immortal to aging. I also think the Chronicler is not technically alive either, since he's supposedly been keeping track of the era for thousands of years. With Ignitus dieing but appearing by the Chronicler at the end, would that make him some kind of supernatural being?

Jay Tanoshi · Aug 21, 2009 7:57 AM

Akon wrote:

Perhaps turning evil made him immortal to aging. I also think the Chronicler is not technically alive either, since he's supposedly been keeping track of the era for thousands of years. With Ignitus dieing but appearing by the Chronicler at the end, would that make him some kind of supernatural being?

Well, maybe not turning evil made him immortal, but he probably learned a way to become immortal, considering he kept getting stronger and stronger as time passed (and leading to exile).

Well, when it comes to Ignitus, a couple of things come to mind from my P.O.V.

1.) Ignitus didn't die. He was somehow saved by the Chronicler at the last minute behind our backs and was given the abilities/powers of the Chronicler. Considering he has the abilities now and being at such a old age now, it's possible....technically, he would die soon, but the Chronicler's powers will keep him alive.

or...

2.) The Chronicler managed to save his soul and gave him the powers.

I personally say the first one, since it seems a bit on the predictable side. Who knows? Also, calling Ignitus a supernatural being now is...yeah, strange. Dragons are already supernatural to begin with. Ignitus was just given more to add to his abilities and what-not. XP At least, in my opinion.

Rurikredwolf · Aug 27, 2009 7:27 PM

Personally, I think that Sparx should have died. It's not often that the comic relief dies in games/movies/books. I mean like, he could have been right next to an explosive and it went off, killing him or something.

ratchet · Aug 29, 2009 4:36 PM

yeah it was cliche, one of the things that we thought might happpen. characters dying is cliche, whether to save proagonists, or battling evil. THerea re some non-cliche deaths around, but they are so non-chiche taht you cant remember them, ones taht you can remember are like serius black from harry potter (Not quite as cliche, But still, there was the mentor and the fact that he died fighting evil along with the protagonist But It was quite a sudden death). Dumbledoors death in HArry potter 6 smells cliche though.

if you are going to kill off a character, make it in a original way that works well, or just dont kill them off, thats all i can say. really, i dont care much for ignitus's death, it didnt make the story any better or worse, just something original fans can pick on more. i find it absolutely stupid in tlos how that once the characters die their sole lives on practically alive, but better. why WOULDNT characters wanna die? whats the point of living when everyone knows its great on the other side?

TornWings · Sep 02, 2009 11:24 PM

1- The soul living on thing was mentioned for dragons specifically, not everyone

2- No one said it was better, or even similar to living. The main example of it was Ignitus' message to Spyro, and that was probably a special case (presumably the world would have ended otherwise). I don't think dead dragons will just be coming back in spirit form to have a chat with their loved ones all the time. That separation death causes is still there.

3- You still have to, you know, die, to reach that form. Dying is generally unpleasant, so I don't think dragons are going to start lining up for it.

Honestly though, I didn't like the whole spirit thing, it just seemed like a last minute addition to justify the events of the ending.

Hyper · Sep 06, 2009 6:48 PM

I DOESNT WANT IGNITUS DEAD. If you are gonna kill someone, kill a guy epicly, not just dissapearing like ignitus..

RedDragonX · Sep 18, 2009 5:08 AM

If you didn't see it coming then obviously you have some issues predicting a bland storyline. Hmmm...but yeah of course they kept him around doing something.

Scaily · Sep 18, 2009 6:57 AM

what happened to cyril he like poofed you never know if he died or lived! and like wtf why did iggy die i mean the chronicler coul have savedhim but thin at the end it says he was specificly chosen to be the next... i have a thery the chroniclers change whenthe worlds coming to an end and being reborn so that means that malfor couldnt have actuly bent he first like he said and spyro couldnt have ben the second because there must have ben another chronicler be for the first we meet i bet and this is my thery agin that the same battles have ben repeated the the spyro universes history countless times but when eatch chronicler passes the porch a lil info is some how lost thus eaning that thay cant know it all so there had to have ben alot more!!! and as for the death of igg come on man hes fire but that was more than fire that was the flames from the ringanilation hells fire its self mostlikely so i understand how even he fell to its power

~cornys~ · Sep 20, 2009 3:31 AM

well.... how many different ways can you die? and for how many reasons and still keep it "G" rated?

And I think it would be really good if somebody would die all ready.... the reality of death always makes a story more realistic and makes the possablity of failiure more likely. If people were fighting in a war and you never saw anybody die would you be as afraid for your self and others as you would other wise? ah... I think not.

Still... It was extremely Predictable.... but what is to expect? It still drug emotion if you were into it none the less....

Jackson117 · Sep 23, 2009 11:30 PM

RedDragonX wrote:

If you didn't see it coming then obviously you have some issues predicting a bland storyline. Hmmm...but yeah of course they kept him around doing something.

Well what do you expect most the time the main star survives (Expect friend and love interest) while he's fellow members die.

RedDragonX · Sep 24, 2009 3:08 AM

Jackson117 wrote:

RedDragonX wrote:
If you didn't see it coming then obviously you have some issues predicting a bland storyline. Hmmm...but yeah of course they kept him around doing something.
Well what do you expect most the time the main star survives (Expect friend and love interest) while he's fellow members die.

I expect them to develop the storyline into something that is actually engaging and not totally predictable from 10,000 miles away. Something unexpected.

Scaily · Sep 24, 2009 6:19 AM

you know speaking of death i never noticed after the hit from the golem did cyril die?

RedDragonX · Sep 24, 2009 1:47 PM

No Cyril didn't die. You can clearly see him in the cutscene at the end of the game.

Jackson117 · Sep 24, 2009 11:17 PM

RedDragonX wrote:

No Cyril didn't die. You can clearly see him in the cutscene at the end of the game.

That's one tough old guy..jUST LIKE JETFIRE

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