Old/New Spyro fan

bastian · May 30, 2009 5:21 AM

I'm both. I started with the first game back when it first came out, and then played Spyro 2 when it came out . . . but lost track of the series. I didn't play Spyro 3, but I got Enter the Dragonfly . . . and it was terrible. I hated it. I finished it, but I missed my old Spyro.

Then one night when I was bored I wiki-ed Spyro and found out about The Legend of Spyro trilogy! It sounded awesome! But I was determined to finish the first trilogy, so I got Spyro 3 from ebay and played and finished it (I LOVED it!) and started in on The Legend of Spyro.

Wow.

Completely different.

Equally good in The Legend of Zelda kinda way . . . but . . . I miss my old Spyro. What I loved about Old Spyro so much was mainly the light fluffy magical level design. Even if it was a truly evil place full of evil creatures, the creatures were cute and cartoony and the level was gorgeous and magical full of secret passageways and hidden rooms and all so BRIGHT and COLORFUL and happy. Maybe that's what I loved about those games, they felt happy and safe.

And the MUSIC! Stewart Copland is a genius, and especially with the Spyro music. So unique and enchanting.

The NEW Spyro . . . doesn't have ANY of that. And Sparx speaks besides "bzzzbzzzbzzzbzzbz"? And is voiced by David Spade? I HATE David Spade!

But . . . I'm loving it. It would have been better, though, if they had just made up a new dragon and it had nothing to do with Spyro at all. But then no one would have played it probably. I don't know . . . I'm on the fence. it's a really good game so far, but . . . I miss my old Spyro.

Spyro.Lover.Forever · May 30, 2009 2:36 PM

I'm both too.

The originals bring back alot of memories from my childhood, I remember lying on my bed playing them all day long tongue

The new ones are just epic, I love them.

~cornys~ · May 30, 2009 7:42 PM

I think there is another thread for this and once a mod. sees this it will be moved or deleted.... I have nothing wrong with this topic though...

I like both equaly myself... smile

grievous16 · May 30, 2009 9:00 PM

I am a LoS fan, as everyone knows.

RedDragonX · May 30, 2009 10:22 PM

I support both series for their own reasons...and I'm not motivated enough to write them all down at the moment tongue

bastian · May 31, 2009 4:52 AM

as much as i'm loving the legend of spyro games, i really do miss the original trilogy style. i wish insomniac would make a new trilogy in the style of the originals.

ratchet · May 31, 2009 3:37 PM

The Original trilogy PWNS TLOS, But TLOS is the reason why I am here now, And For now It has kept the franchise alive...atleast

nobody · Jun 01, 2009 2:05 PM

The orginal trilogy is epic win. I used to spend the whole day playing spyro fairly often, and when I did it was a day well spent.

fbocabral · Jun 01, 2009 3:47 PM

ratchet wrote:

The Original trilogy PWNS TLOS, But TLOS is the reason why I am here now, And For now It has kept the franchise alive...atleast

same for me.... i only played spyro 2 in my life (a lot of times) then i forgot spyro... one day, i saw a pretty cool poster of dawn of the dragon an i tough (MAN!!! is that spyor????) then i started to search about it and... here i am now cool

but i like TLoS series too... i think it was a good idea, cuz after so many games, u know, its hard to have good ideas... and its nice to vary sometimes.

spyroNcynder · Jun 04, 2009 2:39 AM

Yo los adoro todo de comenzar a terminar, yo justo no los he terminado, yo no he jugado temporada de llama, de naranja de spyro, y de spyro: legado de sombra.

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I love them all from begining to end, I just have not finished them, I have not played season of flame, spyro orange, and spyro: shadow legacy.

Neotyguy40 · Jun 04, 2009 7:29 PM

spyroNcynder wrote:

Yo los adoro todo de comenzar a terminar, yo justo no los he terminado, yo no he jugado temporada de llama, de naranja de spyro, y de spyro: legado de sombra.
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I love them all from begining to end, I just have not finished them, I have not played season of flame, spyro orange, and spyro: shadow legacy.

I am 90% sure there is a rule that this forum needs to be used in English...

But anyway, I liked the old ones, they gave nice games, but it had horrible story-lines and were WAY too easy... I can play them all in 6 hours each from start to finish, maybe not get 100%, but yes from start to finish...

The new games imho are much better. Sure, many people disliked them, but I don't care, I find that the newer games own the older ones in hundreds of ways...

RedDragonX · Jun 04, 2009 11:14 PM

Eh he translated it so it's all good smile .....Already given my opinion here.

Jay Tanoshi · Jun 05, 2009 5:24 PM

But anyway, I liked the old ones, they gave nice games, but it had horrible story-lines and were WAY too easy... I can play them all in 6 hours each from start to finish, maybe not get 100%, but yes from start to finish...
The new games imho are much better. Sure, many people disliked them, but I don't care, I find that the newer games own the older ones in hundreds of ways...

Same. They were alright and had their quirks, but they didn't hold my interest long enough to actually beat the games unlike the ones from A Hero's Tail -> Dawn of the Dragon (exclude any GBA Spyro games). If I can find some copies of Spyro 1-3, I might give them one more shot to actually play and beat them to give a full opinion. But for now...yeah, I prefer the new series.

ratchet · Jun 06, 2009 6:50 AM

But anyway, I liked the old ones, they gave nice games, but it had horrible story-lines and were WAY too easy... I can play them all in 6 hours each from start to finish, maybe not get 100%, but yes from start to finish...
The new games imho are much better. Sure, many people disliked them, but I don't care, I find that the newer games own the older ones in hundreds of ways...

Sorry, but i cant fight the urge to debate.
THe storylines are very simple, but the voice acting was some ofd the best for the day, and atleast Spyro 2 and Spyro 3 has around 20 cutscenes and a twist. Not to mention every level and every minigame had a backstory. Also, While You coould beat Spyro 1, 2, and 3 in 6 hours each, not 100%, you can easily beat each TLOS game in 6 hourseach TOO! and they should be longer as they were made later.

Look here:
http://www.spyroforum.com/topic-3912-13 … =originals

Neotyguy40 · Jun 06, 2009 5:53 PM

ratchet wrote:

Sorry, but i cant fight the urge to debate.
THe storylines are very simple, but the voice acting was some ofd the best for the day, and atleast Spyro 2 and Spyro 3 has around 20 cutscenes and a twist. Not to mention every level and every minigame had a backstory. Also, While You coould beat Spyro 1, 2, and 3 in 6 hours each, not 100%, you can easily beat each TLOS game in 6 hourseach TOO! and they should be longer as they were made later.
Look here:
http://www.spyroforum.com/topic-3912-13 … =originals

I never said anything about the voice acting, I liked the voice acting on the old ones too.

They did have many cutscenes, but many of them weren't really anything special, in Spyro 2 + 3, they had random cutscenes at the beginning and end of each level, and the beginning and end of each zone. Only the ones at the beginning and end of each zone had meaning to them. Sure, the ones per level were funny, but they didn't merge together.

The backstories per level were nice small touches, but nothing really special. We never learned "why" Sparx needs to go into the holes and defeat bugs and crabs, he just does...

Let me put the longetivity in each game in different terms. When you just started playing the old ones, you could beat them in 6 hours because they were so easy. The new ones? Sure, you could beat them in 6 hours if you knew what you were doing, but I doubt anyone could beat the games in 6 hours if they never played them before. TEN was most likely the hardest game in either series, because of the hard bosses and the fights.

I laugh at when you said they should be longer because they are newer... Yes, they would be longer if they made it with bad graphics like the old ones (not saying the old ones had bad graphics for their time), but you need to think of the type of detail they put into their games for the newer ones...

Jay Tanoshi · Jun 08, 2009 2:36 AM

Well...umm...not to side with Ratchet or anything, but...I...was kind of able to beat A New Beginning in 6 hours on my first go. Eternal Night did take a bit longer, and Dawn of the Dragon took me quite a while. But hey, I enjoyed them from start to end. All 3 Legend games...awesome. I did wish they were a bit longer though...

Also Neotyguy40, graphics don't factor the amount of time the game can be played and such. It all depends on how long the creators stick to making the game. Technology was rather limited at the time the first 3 Spyro games were around. Even now, it could take the same amount of time, even with all the enhanced graphics and what not. If Activision makes a new Spyro sequel (to the Legend series), I would expect really long gameplay and such if they stick to making the game for 1.5 to 2 years.

ratchet · Jun 08, 2009 8:16 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

I never said anything about the voice acting, I liked the voice acting on the old ones too.

Ok cool, But I class Voice Acting with Storyline

They did have many cutscenes, but many of them weren't really anything special, in Spyro 2 + 3, they had random cutscenes at the beginning and end of each level, and the beginning and end of each zone. Only the ones at the beginning and end of each zone had meaning to them. Sure, the ones per level were funny, but they didn't merge together.

The backstories per level were nice small touches, but nothing really special. We never learned "why" Sparx needs to go into the holes and defeat bugs and crabs, he just does...[/Quote]

He had to go in their because It was too small for Spyro. And He had to get the egg which was in the place. The bugs and crabs were Hired/Created by the Sorcerouss to kill Spyro and Sparx.
And i know The originals storyline wasn't the very best, But to say it was "terrible" is wrong. You may not know, but Still 10 years ago, good storylines were rare.

Let me put the longetivity in each game in different terms. When you just started playing the old ones, you could beat them in 6 hours because they were so easy. The new ones? Sure, you could beat them in 6 hours if you knew what you were doing, but I doubt anyone could beat the games in 6 hours if they never played them before. TEN was most likely the hardest game in either series, because of the hard bosses and the fights.

On the contrary, I find this the other way round. The originals, playing the first time, Each took around 10 hours for most people to beat the first time. But Now It only takes me around 2 hours to beat Spyro 1, An Hour to Beat Spyro 2 (With Glitches, Without around 2 hours) and Spyro 3 say around 6 hours. TLOS, on the otherhand is much quicker. ANB took me 5 hours and a half the first time (Thats what the time counter said...) TEN 6 hours and DOTD 7 hours. I've only played ANB a second time around because I cant be bothered with the other 2 but Once played again it ony takes around 4 hours, at most.

I laugh at when you said they should be longer because they are newer... Yes, they would be longer if they made it with bad graphics like the old ones (not saying the old ones had bad graphics for their time), but you need to think of the type of detail they put into their games for the newer ones...

Kind of Debatable this, I agree, The graphics do take somewhat longer these days. but remember that companies dont just Spend a while doing the graphics THEN move on the gameplay. They have different people working on different things.
Also, back then, the graphics WOULD take the same amount of time to make, Due to the technology. For example, 20 years ago, Super Mario Bros 1 was hard to make, an Awesome, and extraudinary Breathrough. While these days a 9year old can make it i gamemaker!

Blaze the Dragon · Jun 08, 2009 11:01 AM

To put it bluntly, I'm a fan of both; I like each series for different reasons. Sometimes I go back to play the Insomniac games, I literally grew up on them. I found the colors to be great, the gameplay exceptional, and overall, the games were addicting and just plain fun. Playing them over gives me a feeling of nostalgia.

TLoS is another story. The storyline is gripping, and some of the levels were interesting. I was, however, put off by the difficulty of TEN. DotD had a decent difficulty level, it wasn't too easy like ANB, but it also wasn't frustratingly difficult like TEN. Granted the elite enemies and the waves of enemies at the one armor piece in Burned Lands were frustrating. The whole beat-em-up style isn't very exciting, though. It's not as... original, as the gameplay for the original games. The charge is useless, something I found to be obnoxious.

ratchet wrote:

You may not know, but Still 10 years ago, good storylines were rare.

Too true, few games ten years ago had storylines that people would consider "amazing." Though they were original. One of the rare games, ten years ago, that had a "decent" storyline was Final Fantasy VII, which is ironically now considered to be one of the most overhyped games. But I digress.

As I've said before many times, I'm a fan of both.

ratchet · Jun 08, 2009 12:51 PM

Blaze the Dragon wrote:

To put it bluntly, I'm a fan of both; I like each series for different reasons. Sometimes I go back to play the Insomniac games, I literally grew up on them. I found the colors to be great, the gameplay exceptional, and overall, the games were addicting and just plain fun. Playing them over gives me a feeling of nostalgia.
TLoS is another story. The storyline is gripping, and some of the levels were interesting. I was, however, put off by the difficulty of TEN. DotD had a decent difficulty level, it wasn't too easy like ANB, but it also wasn't frustratingly difficult like TEN. Granted the elite enemies and the waves of enemies at the one armor piece in Burned Lands were frustrating. The whole beat-em-up style isn't very exciting, though. It's not as... original, as the gameplay for the original games. The charge is useless, something I found to be obnoxious.
ratchet wrote:
You may not know, but Still 10 years ago, good storylines were rare.
Too true, few games ten years ago had storylines that people would consider "amazing." Though they were original. One of the rare games, ten years ago, that had a "decent" storyline was Final Fantasy VII, which is ironically now considered to be one of the most overhyped games. But I digress.
As I've said before many times, I'm a fan of both.

Well yeah, The only real series to Put up an actual reasonable storyline was final fantasy, and that still wasn't that good. I dont think People realise how hard it is to pull off a good story. I mean if you want to use Movie Files you need more then one disc to play it.

RedDragonX · Jun 08, 2009 10:02 PM

Why the heck do you think Kingdom Hearts is so freaking popular. When I first heard about I was like..."Man how the heck can you combine too so completely different things like Disney and FF......just wrong..."

Now look at it....the story was superb and it has spawned a world wide best selling franchise. What finally gripped me onto the story was just how well the two aspects did end up going together.....AND it was something different to boot.

I always like things that stray away from originality and such....new ideas and new concepts are usually a win in my mind.

BlueSpirit94 · Jun 30, 2009 4:33 PM

Old spyro all the way. I've played the old ones so many times but they never get boring to me. I love them so so so much. The music is so awesome. The story line is simple but great. There is just somthing about them that makes me love them

cynderfire · Aug 13, 2009 10:13 PM

I'm not so keen on the old one. I never experienced playing the old games. I'm more in to the new Spyro (TNB TEN.)

~cornys~ · Aug 14, 2009 3:56 AM

for most of us the origonals are childhood memories.... that's something all together great.... the new ones lack this and automaticaly get a little more oppression.... As said... I like both.... I'll defend both.... and attack neither....

SuperSpyroFan · Sep 03, 2009 5:38 PM

Well that's a simple question for me.

Old Spyro rules,
New Spyro sucks.

Saeth · Sep 09, 2009 2:47 AM

I prefer old over the new Spyro. However, The new trilogy is interesting but poorly executed. If put in the hands of a real passionate developer the TLOS trilogy could have been a lot better instead of continuing to live in the shadow of the original, if not even be a resident in its shadow.

In other words, I more leaning towards being an old Spyro fan than I'm a new Spyro fan. I don't hate, or loathe new series, its just not my cup of tea for Spyro. If they would have spent more time on it or just made it a movie from the start, then I wouldn't complain or rag on it so much.

But then again any gamer can see that TLOS is quite a lukewarm game trilogy...

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