Anyone hate this??

grievous16 · Jul 16, 2009 10:21 PM

You know that some youtube videos have no sound because of the WMG. Whoever they are, they obviously hate Youtube. Post what you think of them.

36IStillLikeSpyro36 · Jul 16, 2009 10:33 PM

WMG = Warner Music Group. they're some music label who broke their contract with YouTube and are now removing every song that belongs to their label. a very stupid, greedy, and whiny move on their part. not letting us have their songs on YouTube. they should be glad we're getting their music out there. it's not like YT is contributing to illegal downloading much. unfortunately, there's other ways people can illegally download stuff.

Kamineko · Jul 16, 2009 11:34 PM

All I know is they're bringing terrible AMVs and the like to a screeching halt, so they're all right by me.

Aicebo · Jul 16, 2009 11:37 PM

It's not just Warner Music Group; it's Universal Music Group, too. I remember when I made WMM Spyro videos and I got around 30 of them removed, mostly UMG owners. I have a little bit better program now, and it has a decent audio editor, so I change the pitch to bypass the filter.

ratchet · Jul 17, 2009 3:37 PM

Yeah, I think I remember Getting copyright for The DOTD playthrough I was doing. I was just like WTF. When they rightly accuse people, I think That they have a very good reason to do it. i simply NEVER bye CDs because I hear the music on youtube. but i possibly might bye it if I had access to it and 1 song didnt cost like $2.

~cornys~ · Jul 17, 2009 3:51 PM

lol.... I usually get all of my song's legaly... but if I make a video and It's music get's removed I don't... a little rebelion... lol

You can only beat a *bleep* hole by being a bigger *bleep* hole.

(I bleep myself out btw if you are wondering)

grievous16 · Jul 17, 2009 6:21 PM

The WMG, though a music group, needs to calm down and not cancel out any music or sounds they hear. They are just retarded.

Aicebo · Jul 18, 2009 2:34 AM

How are they retarded if they're making money?

I will say though that since they (AND UMG) are removing many songs, their sales are getting lower and lower because if they can't sample music, they probably won't want to buy a CD.

Kamineko · Jul 18, 2009 4:16 AM

I think you're giving crappy slide-show music videos on youtube way too much credit. I sincerely doubt people hearing songs on youtube has created any record sales for them, especially since probably 90% of people who would listen to the music would just download it anyway.

No one pays for music anymore, 'cept tossers.

Aicebo · Jul 18, 2009 4:21 AM

I like to collect CDs, often because of the art and having the lyrics booklet, along just having it itself makes me feel good for some reason.

So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.

Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time

DarkMaster · Jul 18, 2009 9:56 AM

Same, i like collecting CD's because of the Lyrics booklet

36IStillLikeSpyro36 · Jul 18, 2009 12:17 PM

Atresac wrote:

I think you're giving crappy slide-show music videos on youtube way too much credit. I sincerely doubt people hearing songs on youtube has created any record sales for them, especially since probably 90% of people who would listen to the music would just download it anyway.
No one pays for music anymore, 'cept tossers.

YouTube is the reason i like 20+ of the songs/bands i do now. i listen to a lot of underground metal bands which aren't that easy to find in the first place, much less in the US where it's all mainstream pop/rap/etc, and YouTube's a good place to find their stuff. and illegally downloading sucks. people should support the bands they like. bands work very hard on music. the least people could do is spend a couple bucks to help support them.

@ below. i'm not saying [all] mainstream is bad. and i'm not saying it's the only music here. it's just the only music i hear anywhere.

Aicebo · Jul 18, 2009 2:12 PM

^I agree with everything you said about the US part
A lot of people on forums (including Americans) think that it's all rap, pop, and country in this country, but it's not, they're all just too lazy to find some amazing bands and artists like I do. I listen to all sorts of things, and usually when I make a video to a song or suggest a song, people don't know what I'm talking about but they love the song or artist because they don't want to try to find it all themselves. I'm trying to introduce my more unknown favorite bands to the world with that kind of stuff.

I also have to say that NOT ALL MAINSTREAM STUFF IS THAT BAD! Are you judging by what you see on MTV and other music channels? That isn't the ONLY music around, you know.

Kamineko · Jul 18, 2009 4:00 PM

Aicebo wrote:

I like to collect CDs, often because of the art and having the lyrics booklet, along just having it itself makes me feel good for some reason.
So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.
Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time

"Videos" like this are the reason youtube sucks so badly as far as content goes. Hell, I'd say crappy slide-show videos are better than lyric videos.

Youtube is a site made for video, not music, so when youtube has crap like this on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk

Then taking it down is no big deal. It's not what youtube is for and if you're getting all bent out of shape over it go to a site that's actually made for providing you with your hip underground musical tastes you starving artist types take so seriously.

As for spending music to support the band: albums make up just about ZERO of a band's income. All the money you spend on albums goes toward the label. Bands make the majority of their money from concert sales and good ol' fashioned corporate whoring. Not to mention if they really want to make money they can get a real job.

A Guy · Jul 18, 2009 6:19 PM

Well, I know how it sucks for many people, but I listen primarily to video game music, so it doesn't affect me much.

In your face, WMG.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 18, 2009 6:40 PM

Atresac wrote:

Aicebo wrote:
I like to collect CDs, often because of the art and having the lyrics booklet, along just having it itself makes me feel good for some reason.
So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.
Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time
"Videos" like this are the reason youtube sucks so badly as far as content goes. Hell, I'd say crappy slide-show videos are better than lyric videos.
Youtube is a site made for video, not music, so when youtube has crap like this on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk
Then taking it down is no big deal. It's not what youtube is for and if you're getting all bent out of shape over it go to a site that's actually made for providing you with your hip underground musical tastes you starving artist types take so seriously.
As for spending music to support the band: albums make up just about ZERO of a band's income. All the money you spend on albums goes toward the label. Bands make the majority of their money from concert sales and good ol' fashioned corporate whoring. Not to mention if they really want to make money they can get a real job.

You're right, those videos deserve to come down. It's just when they take video down just because it has background music of something...

Sir not appearing here · Jul 19, 2009 10:25 PM

Aicebo wrote:

It's not just Warner Music Group; it's Universal Music Group, too. I remember when I made WMM Spyro videos and I got around 30 of them removed, mostly UMG owners. I have a little bit better program now, and it has a decent audio editor, so I change the pitch to bypass the filter.

Really? I didn't know you could do a thing about it.

RedDragonX · Jul 20, 2009 12:41 AM

I honestly don't really care since I don't use YouTube except to find funny videos now and then...but yeah I'm pretty sure it was a site for video making not music sharing or whatever...but Companies will do what they want to keep themselves out of financial trouble or acquire more financial deals.

grievous16 · Jul 20, 2009 12:42 AM

The WMG don't know what they are doing.

bmah · Jul 20, 2009 8:11 AM

IMO, companies that want copyrighted videos to be removed are only portraying themselves as *bleep*s as well as not realizing the potential marketability in having their videos/products advertised on Youtube in the form of videos.

If Youtube eventually becomes too copyrighted, or worse, if videos become pay-per-view, no one would use it. Similarly, if torrent sites become pay-per-torrent file, no one would use that, and new torrent sites with free downloads would just pop up. Companies that try to shut down such sites are just playing whack-a-mole. It's not a very productive use of time.

grievous16 · Jul 20, 2009 5:30 PM

Thank you for your support. *grabs a Vulcan chaingun and goes out to find the WMG and rain lead on them*

Nightfall · Jul 20, 2009 6:50 PM

I don't make vids on YouTube, but it is annoying when you come across a vid based on your favourite game or anime along with your favourite song. And then it's muted. mad

grievous16 · Jul 20, 2009 11:09 PM

I hate the WMG for that. :-|

Aicebo · Jul 20, 2009 11:25 PM

I think we get the message, grievous.

#1 Jul 16, 2009 10:21 PM

Anyone hate this??

#2 Jul 16, 2009 10:33 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#3 Jul 16, 2009 11:34 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#4 Jul 16, 2009 11:37 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#5 Jul 17, 2009 3:37 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#6 Jul 17, 2009 3:51 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#7 Jul 17, 2009 6:21 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#8 Jul 18, 2009 2:34 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#9 Jul 18, 2009 4:16 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#10 Jul 18, 2009 4:21 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#11 Jul 18, 2009 9:56 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#12 Jul 18, 2009 12:17 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#13 Jul 18, 2009 2:12 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#14 Jul 18, 2009 4:00 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#15 Jul 18, 2009 6:19 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#16 Jul 18, 2009 6:40 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#17 Jul 19, 2009 10:25 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#18 Jul 20, 2009 12:41 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#19 Jul 20, 2009 12:42 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#20 Jul 20, 2009 8:11 AM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#21 Jul 20, 2009 5:30 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#22 Jul 20, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#23 Jul 20, 2009 11:09 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

#24 Jul 20, 2009 11:25 PM

Re: Anyone hate this??

Board footer