Tiny pic from the Spyro movie

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 5:23 PM

The Eragon movie was disappointing. In the movie, it took them only days to reach Farthen Dur, when it actually took them several months. Eragon had brown hair and brown eyes in the book, was 15 and turned 16 in the book. Brom was killed by the Ra'zac. Everything else was good, but it took out Jeod, and they didn't meet Angela in Daret. I personally preferred the way Eragon killed Durza in the movie over the book though.

Gwenio · Jan 13, 2008 5:28 PM

To bad the Eldest movie has been ruined already...

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 5:29 PM

That's because, unlike with the Harry Potter movies, the makers of the Eragon movie didn't bother to work with Christopher Paolini. If they do make an Eldest movie, and they work with him, maybe it can be saved from the travesty of what the Eragon movie had.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 9:40 PM

Honestly, I think the Eragon film was very true to the books. It plagiarized everything it could, used shallow characterization, and was full of bad writing, bad acting, bad set and costume design... I felt it was a perfect homage to the book but better because it took less time to endure (and Sapphira was adorable for those five minutes before she grew up and started talking). It even included some of the accidental porn (though none of the creepy stuff with Sapphira or Brom).

I hope the guy who directed Eragon isn't involved with the Spyro film just because I'd rather not have my favorite dragon associated with a series that makes me want to hit fantasy writers.

Eheh. In case no one's noticed, I am in the Anti-Shur'tugal camp. big_smile

dragon protector x · Jan 13, 2008 10:11 PM

...Razz...all that made no sence to me either because i am brain dead now, of my mind doent want to think that hard, but I am on my knees praying that this movie isnt going to be a failure and discrace Spyro. When the director and those guys messed up Eragon...I wanted to seek revenge...and painful revenge at that. But other then that, i think that they might acctualy try harder at makeing this film...at least i hope.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 10:33 PM

Given that Spyro is a near-decade-old, much beloved franchise, while Eragon was a bad Star Wars/Lord of the Rings/Anne McCaffrey/etc knockoff, one can only hope that that will enforce some sort of quality control over the film.

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 10:37 PM

Every piece of work uses something from other sources, and it's usually because they liked the idea and used it in homage of that piece of work.

dragon protector x · Jan 13, 2008 10:44 PM

Ok that makes more sence to me now.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 11:10 PM

Don't even start that argument with Eragon. There is such a thing as homage and imitation as a form of tribute. That is not what Paolini does. Oh, heck, it's said much better (and in explicit detail) right here:
http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/wordpress/?cat=7

He ripped a scene nearly word for word from one of my favorite books and had the gall to call it an homage. If I ever meet Paolini, I swear I just might punch him. I used to think he did this stuff just because he was an inexperienced new writer, but he only gets worse the older he gets and the more he writes.

Anyway, um...BOT. Is anyone else getting a little uneasy about some of the news we've been hearing about the upcoming Spyro film? It sounds like everyone who's currently working on it was picked because they were cheap labor, not for any particular film making skill. And I've already heard the dreaded "direct to DVD release" mentioned, which is the first sign that your film is probably a bad one.

Lancer232 · Jan 13, 2008 11:16 PM

Man...I HOPE this video is good. If it's not...I'll be over here knocking my head on the wall. mad

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 11:17 PM

He started writing Eragon when he was about 15, same age as Eragon. You can't blame him for being inspired by previous writers, such as J.R.R. Tolkein.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 11:26 PM

I can't blame him for being inspired. We all wrote bad fanfic when we were his age (or we will, in the case of some of you smile ). I'm mad at him for having the nerve to say he's being original and for having his way paid into being published when thousands of authors who are actually good can't even get their manuscripts read. If his parents hadn't owned their own publishing company, you can be assured that Paolini would not be a published author now. Which would be good for him, because if he'd earned a rejection slip or two first, he might have had a chance at being a really good writer. But since everything has been handed to him, unless his parents start letting him see what many people are actually saying about his books, he's a lost cause.

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 11:30 PM

Well then, I assume you haven't really been following what I've established in my fanfic I'm writing on DeviantART. I basically based my paladin off of the German legend, Siegfried, his ancestor. I'm actually quite proud of my work, but I'd like your honest opinion on it. You'll find it in my gallery.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 11:37 PM

I honestly don't have the time to look at everyone's dA gallery. If you've got a link to the first part, I'll give it a look. There's nothing wrong with being inspired by cultural mythologies (Tolkien based a lot of his ideas in Norse mythology; I have an entire comic that's about the Egyptian gods and one of the main characters is a Lara Croft parody, etc). But what I'm saying is that Paolini goes too far and he shouldn't be getting away with what he's done. Following the hero's journey outline for your story is one thing, but ripping off almost completely someone else's epic story and saying it's yours is something else entirely.

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 13, 2008 11:42 PM

Here's the first chapter: http://blaze-the-dragon.deviantart.com/ … 1-72354755

And here's the second: http://blaze-the-dragon.deviantart.com/ … 2-74469164

Whenever you've finished reading it, just give me any criticism that can help me make it better, if you feel it can be better.

Razz · Jan 13, 2008 11:54 PM

Do you honest to goodness want my actual critique? Because I will treat your work the way I treat my own, and I am mercenary with my own writing. If not, I'll read and tell you what I liked and call it good, but if you really do want my critique, I'll let you know where I think you can improve (in a nice way; I believe in being honest, but being nice about it smile ).

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 14, 2008 12:02 AM

I want you to be perfectly honest. A writer can't improve if they don't know where to improve on.

Razz · Jan 14, 2008 12:03 AM

Blaze, you rock. smile You're already on your way to being a good writer with that attitude. smile

jamieque · Jan 14, 2008 12:09 AM

Razz wrote:

Do you honest to goodness want my actual critique? Because I will treat your work the way I treat my own, and I am mercenary with my own writing. If not, I'll read and tell you what I liked and call it good, but if you really do want my critique, I'll let you know where I think you can improve (in a nice way; I believe in being honest, but being nice about it ).

Let me read some of your writings, Razz. I am sure they aren't nearly as bad as you think. Now, if you want to see real bad then read some of my older works that I did when I started writing at the age of 6 years old. Ha ha, oh boy, those things are so horrible that it hurts my eyes to go back and re-read some of those old stories.

The only positive legacy of those stories is that it got started on my path to wanting to become an author. I have at least 4 novels in the works right now and they should be heading to a publisher sometime next year. However, I do understand how much a critic authors tend to be of their own works. If anyone here has been reading Spyro: Dragon of Destiny then you know that some of the episodes have been revised and added to occasionally.

As for Eragon... I totally agree with you on that work. The only redeem value of the film and the book is Saphira herself and that is sad. If not for the lead dragoness I wouldn't bother even reading book or watching movie.

Razz · Jan 14, 2008 12:23 AM

I don't necessarily think that I myself am a bad writer, I just think that I need a lot of work and I'm not as skilled with words as I am with pictures. smile

Here are the two most recent bits of writing I've posted:

LoS: A Friend
Spyro takes the first step in making amends with Cynder.
http://razzek.deviantart.com/art/LoS-A-Friend-64594721

LoS: Darkness
Before TEN came out, I came up with the world's best crossover to explain what the Dark Master was. I was a little bit right. big_smile This one has many more punctuation/grammar/typing errors than the other. I didn't really feel like putting much effort into at the time and now that the idea has been completely destroyed by canon events, I've been fiddling with it to put into original fiction.
http://razzek.deviantart.com/art/LoS-Darkness-64674914

And, if you are feeling particularly masochistic, here's a link to my FF.net profile.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/27390/

I write a lot more than I post, and I have more ideas than I could ever write down. The hard part is gathering up enough of an attention span to edit my work (because my zero drafts are so bad they make me want to cry). I also don't post much of my original work because a) it's in-progress and b) I don't want Internet jerks stealing my brain babies.

I've been wanting to do a Cynder story using some 100 theme sets, but the only way I could actually get it done is by inflicting zero drafts on some innocent, undeserving forum and then editing them later when it was far too late to undo the mental damage I'd caused. big_smile

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 14, 2008 12:29 AM

Your writing style is very good Razz, I enjoyed reading your stories.

Razz · Jan 14, 2008 12:58 AM

Thank you, Blaze. smile

Okay, for the curious, I found a couple of zero drafts that I've shared publicly that are safe to post here. So, if you're wondering what sort of writing you might get with the Cynder 100, this is it, only a little better since I waited at least five minutes after the initial writing to clean up the typing errors. big_smile
http://razzek.livejournal.com/289537.html

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 14, 2008 1:12 AM

I saw your critiques, and I edited the chapters according to what you had said, including a scene with the last male dragon falling.

Calamitas · Jan 14, 2008 2:13 AM

It's going to be by the people who did Eragon?!

Well, this movie is screwed. I'll save my money and go dig around in the bargain bins for it.

Gwenio · Jan 14, 2008 2:53 AM

Hopefully he learned his lesson when the number of people coming to see Eragon in theaters dropped 70% the secong week.

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