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#1 Mar 04, 2016 9:45 AM

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Linux is the future!

Many people don't want Linux, and i understand why because... game support?
But Steam has developed something called "SteamOS" basically new modern games will be supported and can be played on literally anything! There exists some games that have Linux compatibility like Freedom Planet. Considering so much dislike for windows 10, and Apple is just overprized in general. I have a feeling that people will ditch microsoft if Steam makes this offer with most game developers. That would be awesome, because Linux lets you change lots of cool stuff. Although you can mess up, but atleast it is free and gives you freedom to do whatever you want without restriction. Although what i fear is if PCs in the future may have a locked up PC hardware bought by Microsoft. That's what i fear the most.

But basically Steam is pretty good in my opinion.


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#2 Mar 04, 2016 2:47 PM

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Re: Linux is the future!

I will just sum this up simply, SteamOS performs Worse on systems than windows does on the same system with the same hardware, lower game support too.
Also since Linux does not use DirectX and use OpenGL, they generally perform worse (Even though Vulcan AI is the answer with its low level hardware access, its still quite a bit off being widely adopted)
Ubuntu is probably the closest distribution of Linux that is "user friendly" but still can require at times to use the terminal which a simple user won't want to / does not know how to use.
Now, I am not against Linux being the "main operating system" but its still far off from being as "flexible"(Probably wrong word to use) as Windows is.


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#3 Mar 04, 2016 4:52 PM

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Re: Linux is the future!

NeoReaper wrote:

I will just sum this up simply, SteamOS performs Worse on systems than windows does on the same system with the same hardware, lower game support too.
Also since Linux does not use DirectX and use OpenGL, they generally perform worse (Even though Vulcan AI is the answer with its low level hardware access, its still quite a bit off being widely adopted)
Ubuntu is probably the closest distribution of Linux that is "user friendly" but still can require at times to use the terminal which a simple user won't want to / does not know how to use.
Now, I am not against Linux being the "main operating system" but its still far off from being as "flexible"(Probably wrong word to use) as Windows is.

But maybe with times that can change. Its still a new concept. But i can see your point of view. Interesting either way. Have heard someone else on the internet sorta saying the same thing.


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#4 Mar 05, 2016 5:29 PM

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Re: Linux is the future!

I dont think ubuntu is so user friendly, Linux mint is much more, but that is just my opinion. Steam runs fine on linux, but some games are still not supported. I didnt try steam os yet. I agree with neo that Linux is not yet so user friendly as windows (but got drastically better recently) and still has lower HW compatibility (especially printers in my experience). Maybe the steam os could bring more user friendliness in the near future... maybe.

The vulkan api is going to be a big competitor to direct x for sure, and I cant wait to see it in action, in comparasion with direct x!

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#5 Mar 06, 2016 12:32 PM

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Re: Linux is the future!

I don't think Linux is the future. I'm gonna admit before anything else that I have a bias against Linux--just because it's not as massively widespread, user-friendly and familiar as Windows--but I just don't see it taking off and suddenly becoming the bigger thing, even if it is cleaner and more efficient. Windows is just bigger, familiar, and has more hardware support. It's like VHS vs. Betamax, and similarly it really doesn't matter which system is better performance-wise (which most PC users aren't looking for, at least over convenience, price, and ease of use).

I think the only thing that could put Linux on top of the gaming market is a major, highly modern/futuristic or incredibly cheap breakthrough system that runs with it. e.g. cheap VR/AR, or something game-changing in the same way smartphones were (and even then, only two popular OSes made it out of that battle alive, not even Windows survived that one). Anything else is probably gonna end up like the Ouya--something different, but with no clear benefits to the average person with no programming experience or interest in a marginal performance boost.

Although that said, doesn't Android OS run on top of Linux? In that sense, Linux might actually already have a hold on a big part of the indie market. It's not the PC market, but it's something.

Again though this is pretty biased--I'm a programmer who's been caught up around other programmers who worship Linux and OpenGL like they're gods in a world dominated by MicroDevil, and this outlook never resonated well with me. Society sucks and all that, there are monopolies, Microsoft's privacy rules are questionable, but I'd be durned if I spend weeks or months worth of extra time and research just to account for the 1% of people who refuse to use the more popular system purely because they dislike those extremely common societal sins (or want a small performance boost). It's not worth it. I'd love to see a new futuristic OS replace Windows, but it's not worth it right now.

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#6 Mar 09, 2016 6:07 PM

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Re: Linux is the future!

I also don't like the people who praise Linux too much, it can make it look worse in some cases, but that's for everything people get obsessed about. It has both good and bad sides, and it really isn't for everyone. I think it's good for people who like to have more control over their system, as well as the ability to customize it in their own way. It still needs to touch up a little bit to make it more user friendly, and the HW and SW support... On the other hand, I think that sometimes people make it look more complicated than it really is. For example, I installed it once on grandmoter's computer and she had no problems using it, i didnt have to go there to fix it or anything. It really improved havily compared to where it was few years ago. You don't have to use console now, people are still using it though, because it's usually much quicker than doing things in gui, which can also vary across distributions or desktop environments. It is different. People have to get used to it first, which takes time. They often don't know what good distribution to try first and end up with Ubuntu...

Anyway, I also don't think its going to become anything big in near future, people are used to windows too much. I wouldn't understimate it though, and Microsoft won't for sure.

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#7 Mar 15, 2016 12:30 AM

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Re: Linux is the future!

One thing i don't like about Linux, whether Ubuntu or Linux Mint and that it seems to not have support for multi-touch on the touchpad. So if i use two fingers to point my cursor at some point then it kinda stops on the spot, because it can only recognize one finger at a time?. If there is one thing Linux needs, and that is driver support for devices. Otherwise i think it would be a pretty decent alternative OS.

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#8 Mar 18, 2016 10:47 AM

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Re: Linux is the future!

Linux is nice for development and servers, but for casual use I prefer Windows or Mac.


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