General Discussion 5

ontels · Oct 26, 2012 10:43 AM

I think the notion of a hipster is just ridiculous and childish. Being a fan of something simply because not many other people are? That's playground logic.

Swaffy · Oct 26, 2012 5:51 PM

ontels wrote:

I think the notion of a hipster is just ridiculous and childish. Being a fan of something simply because not many other people are? That's playground logic.

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Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.

Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.

Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.

Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.

ontels · Oct 26, 2012 5:53 PM

If your not able to condense your argument into something that wont take me 10 minutes to read then I refuse to acknowledged it.

Latias fan · Oct 26, 2012 5:55 PM

ontels wrote:

If your not able to condense your argument into something that wont take me 10 minutes to read then I refuse to acknowledged it.

More importantly. That its not just copypasta from Wikipedia or something.

Clock-la · Oct 26, 2012 6:50 PM

ontels wrote:

Clock-la wrote:
ontels wrote:
If we are talking about who we would like to meet from history then are we allowed to assume that we speak there language?

Considering jane gray was english and molly brown was from the early 20th centuary america i do not think language is to be a big issue.
No I mean for my list.

Then language is a issue.

I mean you can hardly turn up in mongolia in talk to ling mar king of mongolian tea sets! I mean its just insain! Its not like i talk mongolian! Its just to hard to lern!!!!

ontels · Oct 26, 2012 11:12 PM

Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Swaffy · Oct 27, 2012 4:52 AM

ontels wrote:

If your not able to condense your argument into something that wont take me 10 minutes to read then I refuse to acknowledged it.

Hey. I read every letter and period in that body.
Your argument is invalid until you read it.
shétou.

ontels · Oct 27, 2012 10:24 AM

Body? What are you talking about?

Swaffy · Oct 27, 2012 3:20 PM

I was referring to the body of text I put in that Spoiler thing.

GibbyBoy, about Halo 4. Have you been keeping up with the Forward Unto
Dawn web series? Man, that thing is intense.

Clock-la · Oct 27, 2012 3:24 PM

ontels wrote:

Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Tolkiens cool but washington? Wasssttteeeeeeeeeeeeee

36IStillLikeSpyro36 · Oct 27, 2012 3:28 PM

"hello there, Tolkien the Catholic, did you know that a bunch of tough-guy musicians pretending to be satanic are taking names and ideas from your novels and using them in their projects?"

Clock-la · Oct 27, 2012 7:02 PM

36IStillLikeSpyro36 wrote:

"hello there, Tolkien the Catholic, did you know that a bunch of tough-guy musicians pretending to be satanic are taking names and ideas from your novels and using them in their projects?"

Leave us catholics alone! Do you not think we suffered enought under the rule of the tudors!!!!

Latias fan · Oct 27, 2012 10:00 PM

Clock-la wrote:

ontels wrote:
Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Tolkiens cool but washington? Wasssttteeeeeeeeeeeeee

George Washingtons a fantasy writer? I want some of that your smoking.

Clock-la · Oct 27, 2012 10:06 PM

Latias fan wrote:

Clock-la wrote:
ontels wrote:
Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Tolkiens cool but washington? Wasssttteeeeeeeeeeeeee
George Washingtons a fantasy writer? I want some of that your smoking.

What?

ontels · Oct 27, 2012 11:20 PM

Clock-la wrote:

ontels wrote:
Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Tolkiens cool but washington? Wasssttteeeeeeeeeeeeee

The first leader of a new country that just rebelled against the largest superpower in history? I think it would be pretty interesting.

Clock-la · Oct 28, 2012 9:09 AM

ontels wrote:

Clock-la wrote:
ontels wrote:
Well if I have to be able to speak there language then the historical figure I would most want to meet would be...either George Washington or John Tolkien.

Tolkiens cool but washington? Wasssttteeeeeeeeeeeeee
The first leader of a new country that just rebelled against the largest superpower in history? I think it would be pretty interesting.

Waste. Go meet somone like cathrine of aragon, now theres a poor lady who needs mah help

Also anyone on this site voting for the president? If you are vote obama for me x

ontels · Oct 28, 2012 11:07 AM

Why do you care? You not 'MERICAN.

Clock-la · Oct 28, 2012 11:29 AM

ontels wrote:

Why do you care? You not 'MERICAN.

Forgen poilcy effect us all. And having some mad man i n power who is anti everything make this "merica" less land of the free and more 1934 germany.

Stormy · Oct 28, 2012 2:26 PM

Obama isn't really doing that great of a job with foreign policy though tbh... Check how many wars we're in right now. Wars he said he'd get us out of. -__-

Clock-la · Oct 28, 2012 2:41 PM

Stormy wrote:

Obama isn't really doing that great of a job with foreign policy though tbh... Check how many wars we're in right now. Wars he said he'd get us out of. -__-

And romlys campain of entering more wars is better?

Stormy · Oct 28, 2012 2:55 PM

*really doesn't want to get into a politcial debate right now, but...*

Not saying it is; I'm just saying Obama is definitely not good either. Can't decide if I want to "waste" my vote on a third party candidate or just vote for Romney in hopes that he will spend and raise our debt slightly less.

Clock-la · Oct 28, 2012 3:28 PM

Waste it on the guy with a welly on his head. Just don't vote for romley, i mean he looks like fat tony from the simpsons!

36IStillLikeSpyro36 · Oct 28, 2012 4:20 PM

you know where your vote needs to go?

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Clock-la · Oct 28, 2012 4:34 PM

36IStillLikeSpyro36 wrote:

you know where your vote needs to go?
http://www.facebook.com/MorshutheShopkeeper2012
click here for information

Im not obamas biggest fan brw i just think he's the best option due to romly seeming so...well anti everything.

Latias fan · Oct 28, 2012 5:25 PM

I'm more of a libertarian. Gary Johnson is a total bro. ro ro ro fight the powah

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