Airsoft / Paintball

Swaffy · Jun 26, 2010 4:03 PM

Two of the best ways to shoot your friends, and non-friends, without killing
them. They're almost the perfect "let out your anger" sports. Do any of you
play this? If you have your own gun[s], what do you have? You can provide
pictures or videos if you like.

This video isn't of anybody I know, just a video I have on my YouTube
favorites list from a while back. It's called "Fort Airsoft." Also, in the video,
you can hear people in the distance firing actual weapons. Apparently,
these soldiers were playing near their base. Something like that ...

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Neotyguy40 · Jun 26, 2010 9:51 PM

Funny this thread comes up today. Yesterday I was at an overnight airsoft gun fight. Although there were only 4 of us, it was hilarious and fun to see what happened.

My friends have automatic electric assault rifles, and I have a spring bolt rifle. So you would think they have an advantage, right? Well I had two tricks up my sleeve.

First I was able to take the holographic dotted scope from my father's rifle and attach it to mine (surprised it fit!), and because my rifle was accurate enough, I was able to shoot it like a sniper.

But you want to know the best part? I had a ghillie suit that fit in perfectly with the bushes and trees. It was a perfect combination, and they couldn't even find me.

It's too bad my friend couldn't play very well, otherwise we would've won...

But next week it takes place at my house, so I have home advantage :*bleep*in:

bacon · Jun 26, 2010 11:13 PM

I do have my stash of Airsoft Guns. And I do occasionally have Airsoft battles or challenge my friends to target practice. I never really did paintball though. Don't get me wrong, it's really fun. But there's not really any paintball places around where I am, so the only opportunities I get to go paintballing are when I visit family in New York. Also, another thing that requires you to "shoot" your friends is Lazer Tag although you're not technically shooting anything. But it's pretty much the same kind of thing. You run around, aim at your friends, and pull the trigger.

Also, Neotyguy, you must be playing some pretty hardcore Airsoft fights to be sniping with ghillie suits. All I do it put on some goggles and run around spraying with my Auto-Electric SMG. My friend does have an Airsoft Sniper Rifle Model, but the scope isn't very good and he definitely doesn't have a ghillie suit.

Swaffy · Jun 27, 2010 5:27 AM

Oh, wow. NeoTyGuy, I wish I could visit sometime to go out in the woods to
have an airsoft fight. I rarely get to do that, and I end up just shooting at
pests at my house. I have only had one airsoft fight in the woods, and I
remember having to hitch-hike a ride home due to the lack of
transportation. Yeah ... my parents weren't very happy.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 16, 2010 10:58 PM

I brought back this thread because I have a question:

I am looking for an airsoft sniper for about $75-$150. I narrowed my search down to a few specific ones, and I was wondering which I should get:

TSD Tactical Series SD700

This one is about $70, and is the cheapest of the list that I am looking at. I am looking at this one because it is fairly accurate at long ranges and has a simple structure. About 450 FPS.

TSD Tactical Series SD96

This is about $150, and is one of the more expensive ones I'm looking at. It comes with a scope and a swivel mount (but not the bipod itself), so that is great, but I am not sure how accurate it is. I believe it is more accurate than the SD700, but I could be mistaken. It goes at 430-460 FPS.

UTG Shadow Ops

This is literally the EXACT same as the SD96 made by TSD, the one I posted above (even uses the exact same manufacturing parts). The difference is that it doesn't come with a scope (which I already have one). The big difference is if it comes with a bipod. It says that there is a bipod adapter, but it doesn't say anything about the actual bipod itself.

TSD Tactical SuperX-9

Another more expensive one. It comes with a scope and a bipod, but I have not really researched into this one. I literally just found this 5 minutes ago and haven't looked at it much, but it doesn't show the FPS.

UTG Master Sniper

About $90-$100. I'm not sure which gun this is modeled after, but I am guessing it's an M700 series rifle. It goes 420 FPS, but like the other two, I am not sure how accurate it is. I don't really care for the design of the butt end, but it's not too different from the SD700, so I can't complain. It also comes with a bipod.

Does anyone know which one I should get? I am planning on using either .25 or .28 gram BBs, but I need something that's more accurate than this stupid gun I bought at Wal-Mart. The more accurate the better, but I also need something either black or OD green. A sniper also needs a sidearm, which I haven't looked into yet, but I if anyone has a suggestion (must be electric, no gas) then I am open to that.

I am eying the SD96 ones alot. But I might just be liking the design.

Swaffy · Jul 16, 2010 11:41 PM

When using airsoft guns meant for further ranged shooting, you should use
the heavier grade BBs. They fly straighter and further, and have a bit more
wind resistance. The SD96 looks like the best choice.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 16, 2010 11:50 PM

Swaffy wrote:

When using airsoft guns meant for further ranged shooting, you should use
the heavier grade BBs. They fly straighter and further, and have a bit more
wind resistance. The SD96 looks like the best choice.

Don't worry, I plan on using .25 or .28 BBs (the heaviest allowed in games). But should I get the UTG or the TSD? They are both made from the same parts and body...

DarkMaster · Jul 17, 2010 10:19 PM

It looks awesome!

Swaffy · Jul 19, 2010 4:25 AM

I am still digging the SD96. Plus, it looks like the L96 AWP sniper rifle.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 14, 2010 2:56 AM

Sorry for bringing this thread up, yet again... But I just got something that I bet you would like... A JG BAR-10!!!

For the past 2 years they were cut from production (due to a lawsuit from Tokyo Marui), but they just started selling the rest of their unsold stock about a week and a half ago. I ordered one the second I could, because they are considered THE BEST rifle for under $200.

Have you guys done anything with airsoft since then?

Swaffy · Aug 14, 2010 4:00 AM

I've been needing to fix the battery for my automatic. I have this gun
[Crosman Pulse R72] with a silencer and a high-quality LED light on
the left rail. The silencer dims the sound some, but is mainly to make the
barrel look longer instead of that short, stubby look of the stock gun.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 14, 2010 9:06 PM

Swaffy wrote:

I've been needing to fix the battery for my automatic. I have this gun
[Crosman Pulse R72] with a silencer and a high-quality LED light on
the left rail. The silencer dims the sound some, but is mainly to make the
barrel look longer instead of that short, stubby look of the stock gun.

That's because you've got a submachine gun there. Not an assault rifle.

Submachine guns are good for high rates of fire and wide spread, which is why your gun has a short barrel. The shorter the barrel, the more the BBs spread out.

Technically, you can get a tightbore barrel that's a bit longer and put it in your gun. But you would need to keep the silencer on (or the barrel could get damaged). That will keep the rate of fire high, but give you a tighter spread.

Swaffy · Aug 14, 2010 11:13 PM

It has everything you want in an airsoft gun:
[It's an Assault Rifle, not Sub Machinegun.]

- Accuracy [like a pellet rifle]
- Power [275 + FPS]
- Magazine capacity [375 airsoft BBs]
- Fire Rate [Like an MP5]
- Range [Add a bit of hop-up]
- Reliability [Strong, sturdy design without jams]
- Change Fire Mode [Like a real gun]

Neotyguy40 · Aug 15, 2010 8:09 PM

Swaffy wrote:

It has everything you want in an airsoft gun:
[It's an Assault Rifle, not Sub Machinegun.]
- Accuracy [like a pellet rifle]
- Power [275 + FPS]
- Magazine capacity [375 airsoft BBs]
- Fire Rate [Like an MP5]
- Range [Add a bit of hop-up]
- Reliability [Strong, sturdy design without jams]
- Change Fire Mode [Like a real gun]

Really? The barrel looks REALLY short to be an assault rifle. What gun is it based off of?

Swaffy · Aug 18, 2010 3:09 AM

The main body and shoulder stock is pretty much an H&K G3. But the
short, oddly shaped horizontal grip and barrel are [as what it seems] an
original design. If the barrel were longer, I think it would cut off some
muzzle velocity instead of goving it accuracy, as it's already quite accurate.

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Neotyguy40 · Aug 18, 2010 4:36 PM

Swaffy wrote:

The main body and shoulder stock is pretty much an H&K G3. But the
short, oddly shaped horizontal grip and barrel are [as what it seems] an
original design. If the barrel were longer, I think it would cut off some
muzzle velocity instead of goving it accuracy, as it's already quite accurate.
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That reminds me SO much of the m4... Now I want to play CoD4...

I also found out the BAR-10 is based off of the R700!

Swaffy · Aug 18, 2010 6:33 PM

Oh, yes. I looked at Google Images for the BAR-10, and saw that it looks
like one. But don't you think that an airsoft sniper rifle would be a bit
weird? You know ... airsoft guns are meant for shorter distances, and
sniper rifles are meant for great distances. It's a bit ironic.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 18, 2010 8:59 PM

Swaffy wrote:

Oh, yes. I looked at Google Images for the BAR-10, and saw that it looks
like one. But don't you think that an airsoft sniper rifle would be a bit
weird? You know ... airsoft guns are meant for shorter distances, and
sniper rifles are meant for great distances. It's a bit ironic.

I'm guessing you play in the city? I don't play CQBs. My friends and I play out in the forest.

Sniping is probably one of the most difficult, yet most boring positions to play in. The goal isn't to kill every other person, but to do that without being spotted. Sniping allows for a very quiet rifle and being able to take someone out in one shot. The problem is that once someone knows where you are, you're pretty much done.

This is the kind of airsoft I play:

We play in a 15 acre patch of forest. It's pretty useful to have a sniper in that area.

Swaffy · Aug 19, 2010 6:19 PM

I don't mind that, as I love forest-like areas, but if you think about
physics, the round bbs will not fly straight. That's why cylindrical bullets
were invented along with rifled barrels. Because round ammunition will not
fly straight. So I never got the point in using an airsoft sniper rifle.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 19, 2010 9:15 PM

Swaffy wrote:

I don't mind that, as I love forest-like areas, but if you think about
physics, the round bbs will not fly straight. That's why cylindrical bullets
were invented along with rifled barrels. Because round ammunition will not
fly straight. So I never got the point in using an airsoft sniper rifle.

I can assure you airsoft snipers shoot straight enough to be accurate at very long ranges. At 200ft, my new rifle can shoot with groupings of 2-3 inches. I know round bbs are less accurate then cylindrical bullets, but there are so many other factors to take in that it doesn't matter.

Most sniper rifles come with an inner barrel called a "tightbore barrel". These barrels have 3 advantages over normal airsoft barrels.

First, the radius of the barrel is very small. Hence the word "tightbore". They're usually about 6.01mm to 6.03mm in radius, which give room for the normal 6mm BB. The reason why the barrels aren't exactly 6.00mm is because if there is a slight defect in the BB, then the gun will get jammed. Automatics don't have the precision to put a BB into a tightbore barrel, so that's why only spring and semi-auto snipers have them.

Second, the barrel went through a process of rifling, which means the inner barrel has slight carvings in a helix shape, which spin the BB longways to give it closer physics to a cylindrical bullet. Only metal tightbore barrels have this though, or at least I've never seen a plastic one with it (but to be fair I've never seen a plastic tightbore at all).

Lastly, tightbores are very long compared to many other airsoft barrels. This forces gravity and wind to have less effect on the BB during the first few moments the BB is in flight. An extra 2 inches actually goes a long way with a rifle.

But the barrel isn't the only thing. Because airsoft snipers have a very high FPS, they can use the higher weighted BBs. I got .30g BBs with my rifle, and they are alot more accurate then the .20g that I used on my cheap rifle.

Next time you go to a match, find someone who is using a rifle and ask if you could fire a shot or too.

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