Rules that you live by.

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 1:28 AM

Apoc wrote:

SpyroGirl101 wrote:
Apoc wrote:
Heard this message before, a million times. It's just propaganda.
No, this message's purpose is to get souls saved. And what makes you think it's just propaganda?
It never saved my soul. Because it is preached just about everywhere I go. Quite frankly, I'd rather live in sin, if it allows me to think and live freely then no religion for me. Stop trying to convert me.

Maybe it never saved your soul cause you never actually stoped to see what is right in front of you.

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 1:47 AM

Apoc wrote:

The last time I got "help" I was denied all sense of freedom. I did and what did it do for me? Nothing.

Sin is what enslaves you.
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.

A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.

SpyroGirl101 · Jun 14, 2010 1:50 AM

Amen brother, AMEN!

Namba · Jun 14, 2010 1:52 AM

I was a pathetic human being before I seriously got saved. I thought the same thing before that, and thought Jesus couldn't and didn't want to help me. I'm not saying it's this instantaneous "oh, I see the light!" moment and a dove comes down and all that jazz. You have to give that time and committment, and you have to be willing to let go.

Neotyguy40 · Jun 14, 2010 2:41 AM

Spyro22 wrote:

Sin is what enslaves you.

I think Apoc was talking in past tense, in which case you may want to reword your statement.

Spyro22 wrote:

Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.

Propaganda, noun - a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.

Spyro22 wrote:

A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.

Another prejudice against atheism? I admit, I've never heard of that before, but let me ask you. What makes you think we don't have our own reasons to live? Do you think we're suicidal?

I am starting to get annoyed by how much assumption you guys are making against us. As if we were criminal, radical, fanatical, liberal, or now suicidal.

Chryokinesis wrote:

I was a pathetic human being before I seriously got saved. I thought the same thing before that, and thought Jesus couldn't and didn't want to help me. I'm not saying it's this instantaneous "oh, I see the light!" moment and a dove comes down and all that jazz. You have to give that time and committment, and you have to be willing to let go.

Didn't you JUST say you weren't going to continue on with this conversation?

Namba · Jun 14, 2010 2:53 AM

I meant I was done arguing with you. :-P

SpyroGirl101 · Jun 14, 2010 2:58 AM

He can't quit when the Holy Spirit tells him to do otherwise.

Namba · Jun 14, 2010 3:06 AM

Thanks fer backin' me up.

SpyroGirl101 · Jun 14, 2010 3:08 AM

Hey, anytime! wink

Namba · Jun 14, 2010 3:18 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Another prejudice against atheism? I admit, I've never heard of that before, but let me ask you. What makes you think we don't have our own reasons to live? Do you think we're suicidal?
I am starting to get annoyed by how much assumption you guys are making against us. As if we were criminal, radical, fanatical, liberal, or now suicidal.

Wow, you should hear yourself. We never said you were suicidal. And we can't put words in your mouth? I sense a double-standard here.

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 5:19 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Spyro22 wrote:
Sin is what enslaves you.
I think Apoc was talking in past tense, in which case you may want to reword your statement.
Spyro22 wrote:
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.
Propaganda, noun - a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.
Spyro22 wrote:
A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.
Another prejudice against atheism? I admit, I've never heard of that before, but let me ask you. What makes you think we don't have our own reasons to live? Do you think we're suicidal?
I am starting to get annoyed by how much assumption you guys are making against us. As if we were criminal, radical, fanatical, liberal, or now suicidal.
Chryokinesis wrote:
I was a pathetic human being before I seriously got saved. I thought the same thing before that, and thought Jesus couldn't and didn't want to help me. I'm not saying it's this instantaneous "oh, I see the light!" moment and a dove comes down and all that jazz. You have to give that time and committment, and you have to be willing to let go.
Didn't you JUST say you weren't going to continue on with this conversation?

Why did you give me the definition to propaganda? Enslavement to sin isnt a propaganda.

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 5:23 AM

Spyro22 wrote:

Neotyguy40 wrote:
Spyro22 wrote:
Sin is what enslaves you.
I think Apoc was talking in past tense, in which case you may want to reword your statement.
Spyro22 wrote:
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.
Propaganda, noun - a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.
Spyro22 wrote:
A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.
Another prejudice against atheism? I admit, I've never heard of that before, but let me ask you. What makes you think we don't have our own reasons to live? Do you think we're suicidal?
I am starting to get annoyed by how much assumption you guys are making against us. As if we were criminal, radical, fanatical, liberal, or now suicidal.
Chryokinesis wrote:
I was a pathetic human being before I seriously got saved. I thought the same thing before that, and thought Jesus couldn't and didn't want to help me. I'm not saying it's this instantaneous "oh, I see the light!" moment and a dove comes down and all that jazz. You have to give that time and committment, and you have to be willing to let go.
Didn't you JUST say you weren't going to continue on with this conversation?
Why did you give me the definition to propaganda? Enslavement to sin isnt a propaganda.

And how am I being prejudice against athiesm, and I never said you were suicidal (although I do have some friends who have tried to commit suicide before they met God).

SpyroDarkdude01 · Jun 14, 2010 7:33 AM

And how am I being prejudice against athiesm, and I never said you were suicidal (although I do have some friends who have tried to commit suicide before they met God).

God dosen't do anything for Suicidal people. Trust me, I know. I used to be suicidal and God made me feel worse about myself because Religion continued to make feel worse and worse about all the sins I have commited. That was a long time ago now.

SpyroGirl101 · Jun 14, 2010 12:58 PM

Well, if you really knew God, you would think, "Hey, I don't deserve to die! My sins don't matter because Jesus paid for ALL of them! Who would want to die when we have work to do for our Father above?"

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 1:56 PM

SpyroDarkdude01 wrote:

And how am I being prejudice against athiesm, and I never said you were suicidal (although I do have some friends who have tried to commit suicide before they met God).
God dosen't do anything for Suicidal people. Trust me, I know. I used to be suicidal and God made me feel worse about myself because Religion continued to make feel worse and worse about all the sins I have commited. That was a long time ago now.

Like what SpyroGirl101 said, your sins are forgiven. There is not one sin that God wont forgive, and when He forgives you, you are washed and cleaned as white as snow. Guilt was Satan trying to make you feel like you were worth nothing, but God never takes his eyes off of you, because to him your like his child. He wants the best for you.

Ghakimx · Jun 14, 2010 3:39 PM

Or at least that's what everyone says.

Namba · Jun 14, 2010 6:27 PM

SpyroDarkdude01 wrote:

And how am I being prejudice against athiesm, and I never said you were suicidal (although I do have some friends who have tried to commit suicide before they met God).
God dosen't do anything for Suicidal people. Trust me, I know. I used to be suicidal and God made me feel worse about myself because Religion continued to make feel worse and worse about all the sins I have commited. That was a long time ago now.

He convicts you, because suicide is a selfish act.

Emo · Jun 14, 2010 6:31 PM

Chryokinesis wrote:

SpyroDarkdude01 wrote:
And how am I being prejudice against athiesm, and I never said you were suicidal (although I do have some friends who have tried to commit suicide before they met God).
God dosen't do anything for Suicidal people. Trust me, I know. I used to be suicidal and God made me feel worse about myself because Religion continued to make feel worse and worse about all the sins I have commited. That was a long time ago now.
He convicts you, because suicide is a selfish act.

Guys let's try to keep the whole religous/Atheism thing out of the picture. Or this topic will be closed by the moderators. All it's just telling you about is the rules you live by to go through life.

My rules are:

1. Don't steal
2. Don't judge others by appearance
3. Think before saying something

Well, that's all I have for now smile I might write more xD

Neotyguy40 · Jun 14, 2010 8:10 PM

Chryokinesis wrote:

Wow, you should hear yourself. We never said you were suicidal. And we can't put words in your mouth? I sense a double-standard here.

Well then what else could you mean when you say we don't have a reason to live? We have plenty of reasons, and while they may not be religious, I highly doubt that's a double standard.

Spyro22 wrote:

Why did you give me the definition to propaganda? Enslavement to sin isnt a propaganda.

Apoc said that what you said previously was propaganda, and then you said he didn't know what he was talking about. In that case, I am guessing you were talking about how he felt was an enslavement to sin, and because I am assuming Apoc was talking with the preterite in mind, you basically just said that Apoc was enslaved to sin when he was listening to a Church... If that isn't what you meant, which I highly hope it isn't, then could you explain what you meant?

What I am trying to say, is why should I let a religion run my life? Instead of going to church for 3 hours a week, I could be using that time to do something productive. Sure, religion is good for making people happy, but why do you guys have to act like missionaries and push your beliefs on us? This thread was meant to just to joke around, but then you guys start posting rules from the Bible? What did you expect to gain out of this? You guys have been on the offense against us for days when we keep saying "Take your religion and gtfo!". I think I am going to request a moderator to just lock this. I might make a new one in a few days, but I sure hope that it doesn't become another preaching ceremony...

SpyroGirl101 · Jun 14, 2010 8:27 PM

Wow, you're saying that spending time in church to learn what God wants me to do is unproductive? That's the only thing in this world that is truly productive.

Edit: I am not mad at nor do I dislike any of the athiests on here. In fact, even though I don't know who any of you really are, I have a burden for all of you and will continue to pray for you even if this thread gets locked.

Apoc · Jun 14, 2010 8:35 PM

Spyro22 wrote:

Apoc wrote:
SpyroGirl101 wrote:
No, this message's purpose is to get souls saved. And what makes you think it's just propaganda?
It never saved my soul. Because it is preached just about everywhere I go. Quite frankly, I'd rather live in sin, if it allows me to think and live freely then no religion for me. Stop trying to convert me.
Maybe it never saved your soul cause you never actually stoped to see what is right in front of you.

I was a Christian for a good 7 years and I've never been so miserable.

Spyro22 wrote:

Apoc wrote:
The last time I got "help" I was denied all sense of freedom. I did and what did it do for me? Nothing.
Sin is what enslaves you.
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.
A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.

Everybody sins, it's not just me.
So, 7 years of experience, knowing a lot of Christians and of course being attacked by bigots(kinda like what you're doing) means nothing? I refuse to be b1tch slapped into social manipulation and bigotry.

So, what you're saying is that I'm a poor and unfortunate soul? A suicidal maniac with no purpose in life? Just because I don't have faith? Wow, now I really am disgusted with your perception of faith.

I have a little phrase, it goes:

"I believe everybody is their own god, not only does it permit them to be free it allows them to make their own decisions. God is an illusion used to stop people from thinking for themselves. Instead of thinking for themselves they turn to the words of a book rather than living for themselves."

Neotyguy40 · Jun 14, 2010 9:46 PM

SpyroGirl101 wrote:

Wow, you're saying that spending time in church to learn what God wants me to do is unproductive? That's the only thing in this world that is truly productive.

Yes, I am saying that going to Church is unproductive. That is what I personally believe.

SpyroGirl101 wrote:

Edit: I am not mad at nor do I dislike any of the athiests on here. In fact, even though I don't know who any of you really are, I have a burden for all of you and will continue to pray for you even if this thread gets locked.

While that comment makes me respect you more, if you must pray for someone than do it for someone other than me. I don't need any prayer, for I don't have any issues in my life currently.

Apoc wrote:

So, what you're saying is that I'm a poor and unfortunate soul? A suicidal maniac with no purpose in life? Just because I don't have faith? Wow, now I really am disgusted with your perception of faith.

Wow... I said the EXACT same thing...

Apoc · Jun 14, 2010 9:53 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Apoc wrote:
So, what you're saying is that I'm a poor and unfortunate soul? A suicidal maniac with no purpose in life? Just because I don't have faith? Wow, now I really am disgusted with your perception of faith.
Wow... I said the EXACT same thing...

What can I say? Great minds think alike.

Spyro22 · Jun 14, 2010 11:00 PM

Apoc wrote:

Spyro22 wrote:
Apoc wrote:
It never saved my soul. Because it is preached just about everywhere I go. Quite frankly, I'd rather live in sin, if it allows me to think and live freely then no religion for me. Stop trying to convert me.
Maybe it never saved your soul cause you never actually stoped to see what is right in front of you.
I was a Christian for a good 7 years and I've never been so miserable.
Spyro22 wrote:
Apoc wrote:
The last time I got "help" I was denied all sense of freedom. I did and what did it do for me? Nothing.
Sin is what enslaves you.
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.
A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.
Everybody sins, it's not just me.
So, 7 years of experience, knowing a lot of Christians and of course being attacked by bigots(kinda like what you're doing) means nothing? I refuse to be b1tch slapped into social manipulation and bigotry.
So, what you're saying is that I'm a poor and unfortunate soul? A suicidal maniac with no purpose in life? Just because I don't have faith? Wow, now I really am disgusted with your perception of faith.
I have a little phrase, it goes:
"I believe everybody is their own god, not only does it permit them to be free it allows them to make their own decisions. God is an illusion used to stop people from thinking for themselves. Instead of thinking for themselves they turn to the words of a book rather than living for themselves."

Apoc, May I say this now. Your'e jumping to conclusions. I believe every single soul has a purpose that is so great that it can't be imagined. And that purpose can only be achieved through God.
And if we were all stuck thinking more about ourselves where would the world be right now?
And if we were all our own gods, our lives would be in turmoil.
There has to be a greater reason for us to be here in existence than serving ouselves selfishely.

And another thing, I don't believe your at fault here. I think the world has failed you.

Apoc · Jun 14, 2010 11:02 PM

Spyro22 wrote:

Apoc wrote:
Spyro22 wrote:
Maybe it never saved your soul cause you never actually stoped to see what is right in front of you.
I was a Christian for a good 7 years and I've never been so miserable.
Spyro22 wrote:
Sin is what enslaves you.
Apoc, you don't know what youre talking about.
A lot of us have something you don't have, and that actually gives us reason to live.
Everybody sins, it's not just me.
So, 7 years of experience, knowing a lot of Christians and of course being attacked by bigots(kinda like what you're doing) means nothing? I refuse to be b1tch slapped into social manipulation and bigotry.
So, what you're saying is that I'm a poor and unfortunate soul? A suicidal maniac with no purpose in life? Just because I don't have faith? Wow, now I really am disgusted with your perception of faith.
I have a little phrase, it goes:
"I believe everybody is their own god, not only does it permit them to be free it allows them to make their own decisions. God is an illusion used to stop people from thinking for themselves. Instead of thinking for themselves they turn to the words of a book rather than living for themselves."
Apoc, May I say this now. Your'e jumping to conclusions. I believe every single soul has a purpose that is so great that it can't be imagined. And that purpose can only be achieved through God.
And if we were all stuck thinking more about ourselves where would the world be right now?
And if we were all our own gods, our lives would be in turmoil.
There has to be a greater reason for us to be here in existence than serving ouselves selfishely.
And another thing, I don't believe your at fault here. I think the world has failed you.

Our purpose is for us to decide not God or anybody else. I came to learn and create.

How has the world failed me?

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