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Nightfall · Dec 29, 2009 9:33 PM

Swaffy that picture is beautiful.

bmah · Dec 30, 2009 9:57 AM

I immensely enjoyed this movie. Although I would have to agree with the opinion many others share that the story's quite predictable, I don't think this detracts from the overall quality of the movie.

And about those 3D glasses, I thought I could get away with not wearing it, but the screen's too blurry for me to enjoy without those glasses on. I can't see how one would enjoy a blurry screening.

Karmadragon · Dec 30, 2009 2:01 PM

My view:
I personally loved it as much as a man can love a film. The effects were done to a good degree and how they did the world of Pandora topped it off. I saw it 3-D and it felt like it had depth to the film. I agree the storyline was predicable but strangle I like that.Also to add on that, It made me think it was like it had bits off The Matrix. Now i like that film but Avatar kinda ripped it off.
I didn't read any reviews before i saw it so It hasn't affects my view of it.
Overall i would give it:
9.7

MrXLink · Dec 30, 2009 3:32 PM

That thing what they are searching for: unobtainium. I lol'd for that name after the movie.

I'd love to have hallelujah mountains over here... would be pretty awesome.

Anyway, I loved that movie that much, I changed my av. to the ToRuk tongue

Clock-la · Dec 30, 2009 9:24 PM

Swaffy wrote:

I heard that it took around 10-12 years to make that movie.

6 years. For me a good film is the story If the story is s*** i don't wan't to see it.

The story...

Hi im a spy im men't to SPY on you AND then KILL YOU but now i feel guilty about that so i'll just like you for no reason ohh you found out im a spy you kick me out i feel guity the bad guys lol and then i go and help the blu guys and kill my team for no reason.

Been done over 100000000000000000000000000000000000000 Times so im not paying £5 to wach that s***

MrXLink · Dec 30, 2009 10:28 PM

The story isn't important. The graphics are.
Also, the story is based on your story, but different. You should watch it, rly.

Starscream · Dec 30, 2009 10:38 PM

MrX-Link wrote:

The story isn't important. The graphics are.

Noooo the most inportan part of ANY MOVIE it it's PLOT and it's CHARACTERS!

Effect are just a TOOL to tell that story, not the primary objective!

Tell me the the greatest movies, what did they have a good story or badass effect?

Rurikredwolf · Dec 30, 2009 10:40 PM

8.5 for me. Storyline ruined it for me...big time.

MrXLink · Dec 30, 2009 10:50 PM

Starscream wrote:

MrX-Link wrote:
The story isn't important. The graphics are.
Noooo the most inportan part of ANY MOVIE it it's PLOT and it's CHARACTERS!
Effect are just a TOOL to tell that story, not the primary objective!
Tell me the the greatest movies, what did they have a good story or badass effect?

For this story it's the opposite, sir. I understand what you mean, effects are a tool to help to understand the story, but that does not mean the 60 b/million (forgot it exactly... lol) dollars could have been much lower because the story is the most important. Don't you see? There are more people who go and visit for graphics and #D than for the actual story. Okay, it's part of it and they will like it, but their main purpose is graphics. They read reviews.

RedDragonX · Dec 30, 2009 11:54 PM

Awesome movie I have to say...and the storyline, as said by one of my favorite reviewers, is indeed predictable but they did it in the best way possible to still make it an enjoyable experience. I didn't care if the movie was slightly cliched or not...everything else more then made up for that...and two sequels are planned so you're gonna see more of it.

Swaffy · Dec 31, 2009 12:19 AM

I think all of you [aside from RDX] are being a bit too closed minded about
the movie. In my point of view, the movie had an original storyline. And
many of the scenes were unpredictable.

And it is an amazing movie. The director and his workers put in a lot
of work, pain, and effort in making this movie. You should thank them for
their hard work.

bmah · Dec 31, 2009 5:44 AM

Swaffy wrote:

I think all of you [aside from RDX] are being a bit too closed minded about the movie.

I am...? I basically said the same thing as RDX. Actually, several others too. Only a few actually contemplated the thought of bemoaning over a few elements enough to ruin the show for them.

Swaffy wrote:

And it is an amazing movie. The director and his workers put in a lot of work, pain, and effort in making this movie. You should thank them for their hard work.

And surely we almost all do. Despite some dislikes, I think an even more commonly agreed perception is that Cameron spent a huge amount of effort for the movie - thinking about the story even before Titanic came out. Not to mention one of the most expensive movie ever for production.

MrXLink · Dec 31, 2009 8:24 AM

Swaffy wrote:

And it is an amazing movie. The director and his workers put in a lot
of work, pain, and effort in making this movie. You should thank them for
their hard work.

I didn't say it isn't an amazing movie. No, the movie is fantastic and the hard work is appreciated, really. The basic story was only predictable. And of course, some scenes weren't. Because if they were, the rating would be lower. The movie took, as I said, 60 million dollars to make (most expensive movie ever made) and it's worth that money. I still don't understand why I still get answers from ppl that tell me the storyline realkly sucks, which it doesn't.

Starscream · Dec 31, 2009 12:56 PM

The director and his workers put in a lot
of work, pain, and effort in making this movie. You should thank them for
their hard work.

They also put a ot of effort and work in makin Transformers 2 and that didn't stop it from being a total piece of crap

Why should I thank someone for something I didn't enjoy?

And of course, some scenes weren't. Because if they were, the rating would be lower.

No the ratings wouldn't be lower because pretty much every bidy is just going OMFG THE EFFECT ARE AWESOME OMG OMG OMG AAAA JAMES CAMERON AAAAAAAA OMFG OMFG OMFG, and didn't even pay attion to the story...

Btw I pretty much knew every scene that is going to happen next. I knew how the movie is going to end after the first half hour for Christ's sake...'

The movie took, as I said, 60 million dollars to make (most expensive movie ever made) and it's worth that money.

60 million dollars is nothing in th movie industry, Avatar cost 650 million.

And just becasue something is exspencive it doesn't meant it's good.

District 9 cost 30 million to make, and it's still FAAAAAAAAAR better than Avatar can ever hope of being...

I still don't understand why I still get answers from ppl that tell me the storyline realkly sucks, which it doesn't.

Maybe some poeple just don't like seeing one story again and again and again?

I didn't like that story the first hundread times I saw it and I don't like it now!

There is a thing called OPINION, and just because it isn't the same as yours it doesn't mean it's wrong!

Swaffy · Dec 31, 2009 10:12 PM

Starscream wrote:

There is a thing called OPINION, and just because it isn't the same as yours it doesn't mean it's wrong!

So you make your own opinion by saying, "and it's FAA...AAR better than
Avatar can ever hope of being..."

Not only are you being a bit too judgemental, but you are also contradicting
yourself in this situation.

Starscream · Dec 31, 2009 10:33 PM

Swaffy wrote:

Starscream wrote:
There is a thing called OPINION, and just because it isn't the same as yours it doesn't mean it's wrong!
So you make your own opinion by saying, "and it's FAA...AAR better than
Avatar can ever hope of being..."
Not only are you being a bit too judgemental, but you are also contradicting
yourself in this situation.

Oh I'm sorry

"District 9 cost 30 million to make, and it's still FAAAAAAAAAR better than Avatar can ever hope of being IN MY OPINION"

There, happy?

~cornys~ · Dec 31, 2009 11:01 PM

It was good but in the end story wise it was just average... I'd hold the same thing I do against tLoS against Avatar... Not enough effort on making an orig. story...

Succedded in being decent nonetheless...

Swaffy · Dec 31, 2009 11:08 PM

I don't know if you noticed .. but doesn't 90% of all movies have
mainstream endings?

Blaze the Dragon · Jan 01, 2010 3:07 AM

Okay Starscream, I direct this at you; just because you didn't like the movie, that doesn't make it a "piece of crap" in general, as you stated. The words you used made it sound like your opinion was absolute.

Next time, choose your words more carefully. And, before you ask, yes, I know I'm being a "sentence-structure Nazi" as some would say it. Then again, I am planning on being an English teacher. I look for flaws in any sort of sentence or what could be said.

Swaffy · Jan 01, 2010 6:58 AM

Thanks, Blaze.

I, too, dislike seeing incorrect grammar. I usually bug my sister about her
horrible gramar habits. But on this forum, I cut slack for the fellow
members. We don't need another annoyance.

Starscream · Jan 01, 2010 10:56 AM

You know there are peole in this world TO WHOM ENGLISH ISN'T THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE!

It's my thid I'm still learning it!

RedDragonX · Jan 01, 2010 4:19 PM

This movie has many things working against it as well that many of the more radical people or reviewers have already pointed out. Obviously things like the ideas of industrialization and militarism that Cameron represents the human species incorporating. The stance on nature dying through selfish means, and African Americans have also accused it of being racism and just another way of keep "Us N@#$&rs down."

The movie cost to make was an estimated 287 million to 310 million with another 150 million for advertising costs, placing it around 480 million dollars to make, heralding it as the most expensive movie ever made.

To date it has also grossed 750 million dollars worldwide and is still going strong. So not only has the movie managed to attract viewers constantly but it has covered its budget by far, and Cameron has already outlined a story arc for two sequels.

The whole point of a good movie to me is to at least tell the storyline WELL, and noticing that the storyline is CLICHED or is like DANCES WITH WOLVES, (if anyone has even seen that movie, tis an oldie) doesn't make you clever. The acting was done immensely well and effects speak for themselves. These strong features have made it something worth watching many times over. No matter what someone complains about something but from what I've seen the vast majority of the world has enjoyed the experience.

Starscream · Jan 01, 2010 5:21 PM

Cameron has already outlined a story arc for two sequels.

As far as I've heard the second movie is going to ripoff the story of Seven Samurai, which is actually not a bad idea since Seven Samurai had an awesome story worth telling...

RedDragonX · Jan 01, 2010 9:51 PM

Starscream wrote:

Cameron has already outlined a story arc for two sequels.
As far as I've heard the second movie is going to ripoff the story of Seven Samurai, which is actually not a bad idea since Seven Samurai had an awesome story worth telling...

And where have you heard this, and I'd like to see a reliable source

Starscream · Jan 01, 2010 10:44 PM

RedDragonX wrote:

Starscream wrote:
Cameron has already outlined a story arc for two sequels.
As far as I've heard the second movie is going to ripoff the story of Seven Samurai, which is actually not a bad idea since Seven Samurai had an awesome story worth telling...
And where have you heard this, and I'd like to see a reliable source

Serbian site called "Looking from a space ship" that posts news about SF movies.

I could give you a link but you wouldn't be able to read anything tongue

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