who here thinks 360 would be better without rrod?

hunter263 · Dec 10, 2009 8:02 PM

i hate the rrod! it has a 30% failure rate i was planning on getting a 360 but im not wasting money on something that may just die in about 2 weeks or more what about u?

~cornys~ · Dec 10, 2009 8:13 PM

I never really was a fan of the 360... but I think it's because I got so used to the playstaion controler... lol

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Neotyguy40 · Dec 11, 2009 12:10 AM

Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.

I personally find that the 360 was really poorly made, and I hope MS learns it's mistakes and makes the 720 (or whatever) to be more consumer friendly.

One thing that I especially think is stupid is the monthly fee to play online. I really don't understand this since the players are the ones that host the games. It's not like MS is hosting all the servers.

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Neotyguy40 · Dec 11, 2009 12:18 AM

Dracokon wrote:

Neotyguy40 wrote:
Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.
I personally find that the 360 was really poorly made, and I hope MS learns it's mistakes and makes the 720 (or whatever) to be more consumer friendly.
One thing that I especially think is stupid is the monthly fee to play online. I really don't understand this since the players are the ones that host the games. It's not like MS is hosting all the servers.
360 online play requires servers. There are many online-based achievements in old sports titles (2K6, for example) that are no longer able to be unlocked because Electronic Arts has shut down the servers for their older games.

Well that sounds like EA's problem.

If they did it right in the first place, they would only need 5, maybe 10 servers tops. My point is that the 360 games were hosted by a player, not a dedicated MS server...

Stormy · Dec 11, 2009 1:18 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.

If you're talking about this thread, it actually has nothing to do with this one. That thread is about Xbox Live users getting banned.

I don't see any "useless" threads made by hunter263.

If you're not a mod, don't try to act like one.

Neotyguy40 · Dec 11, 2009 1:49 AM

Stormy wrote:

Neotyguy40 wrote:
Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.
If you're talking about this thread, it actually has nothing to do with this one. That thread is about Xbox Live users getting banned.
I don't see any "useless" threads made by hunter263.

I was generalizing the threads. In the past 2 days, he made 5 threads and 3 of them have received only 1 or no posts at all. I don't mind this, and I made sure I said it in a non offensive term. Hence when I said "No offense" (is it me, or do people get angry when someone uses those words?)

The title of the thread is different from the discussion, and if you look inside the thread, you will see it transformed into a thread about the hardware issues of the 360, not the actual lawsuit.

If you're not a mod, don't try to act like one.

I find this offensive. Just because I don't have a yellow bar under my name that says "Moderator" means that I can't ask someone to stop doing something? All I asked is that he stops making a new thread when he wants to state something and try to find an already made thread, whether he listens or not is his deal.

Let's say I am standing on someone's jacket. If they ask me if I could step off of it, should the police go up to them and say "Don't tell him what to do."

I don't see the logic in that.

Ghakimx · Dec 11, 2009 5:29 AM

What kind of question is this

Stormy · Dec 11, 2009 9:56 AM

Neotyguy40: Check your PMs for my answer so we're not derailing this topic.

But yeah, I don't have an Xbox, but one of my friends has apparently had to replace his Xbox twice because of the red ring of death.

SapphireSheep · Dec 12, 2009 2:05 AM

Stormy wrote:

Neotyguy40: Check your PMs for my answer so we're not derailing this topic.
But yeah, I don't have an Xbox, but one of my friends has apparently had to replace his Xbox twice because of the red ring of death.

I have only gone through one xbox and it had the red ring of death. the xbox only seems to last about a year maybe a year and a half. depending. yeah they can probably last more than that but most are unlucky and tend to get the red ring of death.

then they released the xbox 360 elite. believe me when I say in LIFE SPAN it isn't much better. it dosen't get the red ring of death. AWESOME right? well instead of the red ring the scaner that reads the discs in the disc tray wear down and eventually stops working all together.

if you get the red ring it dosen't always mean its dead. sometimes after people have their xboxs come back to life. some times the red ring even means that there is some sort of specific plug that may not be all the way or something like that.

I LOVE the xbox 360. I believe it pretty much destroys the PS3 if it wasn't for the xboxs horrible life span. although I think it would be way more worth it to have a PS2 rather than a PS3. but thats just me.

dragon protector x · Dec 12, 2009 2:28 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Stormy wrote:
Neotyguy40 wrote:
Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.
If you're talking about this thread, it actually has nothing to do with this one. That thread is about Xbox Live users getting banned.
I don't see any "useless" threads made by hunter263.
I was generalizing the threads. In the past 2 days, he made 5 threads and 3 of them have received only 1 or no posts at all. I don't mind this, and I made sure I said it in a non offensive term. Hence when I said "No offense" (is it me, or do people get angry when someone uses those words?)
The title of the thread is different from the discussion, and if you look inside the thread, you will see it transformed into a thread about the hardware issues of the 360, not the actual lawsuit.
If you're not a mod, don't try to act like one.
I find this offensive. Just because I don't have a yellow bar under my name that says "Moderator" means that I can't ask someone to stop doing something? All I asked is that he stops making a new thread when he wants to state something and try to find an already made thread, whether he listens or not is his deal.
Let's say I am standing on someone's jacket. If they ask me if I could step off of it, should the police go up to them and say "Don't tell him what
to do."
I don't see the logic in that.

1. Yes some times people make threads that dont get alot of posts... that doesnt mean they are useless... It means no one really has much to say about he topic either because they dont know enough to state their ideas and feeling or no one really checks the thread out....

2.Stormy is just trying to tell that if some ones thread isnt useless because a thread is a thread. every thread has its purpose.... yes some times duplicate thread are made becuase no one has sanity to go threw many pages of old other threads to see if there was already a thread of something.
Now im going back to the topic of the thread. I just had to say something because seeing this stupied bikering is kind of anoying.

SapphireSheep wrote:

Stormy wrote:
Neotyguy40: Check your PMs for my answer so we're not derailing this topic.
But yeah, I don't have an Xbox, but one of my friends has apparently had to replace his Xbox twice because of the red ring of death.
I have only gone through one xbox and it had the red ring of death. the xbox only seems to last about a year maybe a year and a half. depending. yeah they can probably last more than that but most are unlucky and tend to get the red ring of death.
then they released the xbox 360 elite. believe me when I say in LIFE SPAN it isn't much better. it dosen't get the red ring of death. AWESOME right? well instead of the red ring the scaner that reads the discs in the disc tray wear down and eventually stops working all together.
if you get the red ring it dosen't always mean its dead. sometimes after people have their xboxs come back to life. some times the red ring even means that there is some sort of specific plug that may not be all the way or something like that.
I LOVE the xbox 360. I believe it pretty much destroys the PS3 if it wasn't for the xboxs horrible life span. although I think it would be way more worth it to have a PS2 rather than a PS3. but thats just me.

Iv slightly always wanted an X-box just for some of the games, but i wont get one because of these problems MS keeps seeming to have... I think hat x box ought be made by a less... program failing company. I havent had any problems with my PS3, but like all the consles these days and their online features, they want to charge you for basicaly everything they can. Oh you want an old game, give us $13, OH and that patch to this game... Tsk tsk that will be another $30.

The only other problem that i think Sony has is their servers. They arent as good as MS that i hear. We may have a slight more lag, but over all i think before the online features are to b worried about its the chips inside.

hunter263 · Dec 12, 2009 3:00 AM

dragon protector x wrote:

Neotyguy40 wrote:
Stormy wrote:
Neotyguy40 wrote:
Ok hunter, no offense but you seem to be starting alot of useless threads that we already have on the forums. We already have a thread of the 360 dying all the time. I guess it doesn't really matter since the mods haven't gotten involved yet though.
If you're talking about this thread, it actually has nothing to do with this one. That thread is about Xbox Live users getting banned.
I don't see any "useless" threads made by hunter263.
I was generalizing the threads. In the past 2 days, he made 5 threads and 3 of them have received only 1 or no posts at all. I don't mind this, and I made sure I said it in a non offensive term. Hence when I said "No offense" (is it me, or do people get angry when someone uses those words?)
The title of the thread is different from the discussion, and if you look inside the thread, you will see it transformed into a thread about the hardware issues of the 360, not the actual lawsuit.
If you're not a mod, don't try to act like one.
I find this offensive. Just because I don't have a yellow bar under my name that says "Moderator" means that I can't ask someone to stop doing something? All I asked is that he stops making a new thread when he wants to state something and try to find an already made thread, whether he listens or not is his deal.
Let's say I am standing on someone's jacket. If they ask me if I could step off of it, should the police go up to them and say "Don't tell him what
to do."
I don't see the logic in that.
1. Yes some times people make threads that dont get alot of posts... that doesnt mean they are useless... It means no one really has much to say about he topic either because they dont know enough to state their ideas and feeling or no one really checks the thread out....
2.Stormy is just trying to tell that if some ones thread isnt useless because a thread is a thread. every thread has its purpose.... yes some times duplicate thread are made becuase no one has sanity to go threw many pages of old other threads to see if there was already a thread of something.
Now im going back to the topic of the thread. I just had to say something because seeing this stupied bikering is kind of anoying.

SapphireSheep wrote:
Stormy wrote:
Neotyguy40: Check your PMs for my answer so we're not derailing this topic.
But yeah, I don't have an Xbox, but one of my friends has apparently had to replace his Xbox twice because of the red ring of death.
I have only gone through one xbox and it had the red ring of death. the xbox only seems to last about a year maybe a year and a half. depending. yeah they can probably last more than that but most are unlucky and tend to get the red ring of death.
then they released the xbox 360 elite. believe me when I say in LIFE SPAN it isn't much better. it dosen't get the red ring of death. AWESOME right? well instead of the red ring the scaner that reads the discs in the disc tray wear down and eventually stops working all together.
if you get the red ring it dosen't always mean its dead. sometimes after people have their xboxs come back to life. some times the red ring even means that there is some sort of specific plug that may not be all the way or something like that.
I LOVE the xbox 360. I believe it pretty much destroys the PS3 if it wasn't for the xboxs horrible life span. although I think it would be way more worth it to have a PS2 rather than a PS3. but thats just me.
Iv slightly always wanted an X-box just for some of the games, but i wont get one because of these problems MS keeps seeming to have... I think hat x box ought be made by a less... program failing company. I havent had any problems with my PS3, but like all the consles these days and their online features, they want to charge you for basicaly everything they can. Oh you want an old game, give us $13, OH and that patch to this game... Tsk tsk that will be another $30.
The only other problem that i think Sony has is their servers. They arent as good as MS that i hear. We may have a slight more lag, but over all i think before the online features are to b worried about its the chips inside.

i will admit the 360 is fun but 4 online u gotta pay money and u have 2 put it somewhere where it can get air the ps3 also has the YLOD and the wii has the gbod but the 360s failure rate is high unlike the ps3 or wii but i dont see my self getting a 360 anytime soon

dragon protector x · Dec 12, 2009 3:04 AM

Not to bash on MS, but i dont think they care about the quality of their produces any more. If they know they can make stuff dis functional and get money from people that have to keep rebuying their products, then they will try the best they can to not cross the border of complete disfunctional, but still messed up slightly. I mean i dont think they really tried to make the 360 as best they could, but rather just did a rush job just to get it on the market...

Stormy · Dec 12, 2009 6:19 AM

SapphireSheep wrote:

Stormy wrote:
Neotyguy40: Check your PMs for my answer so we're not derailing this topic.
But yeah, I don't have an Xbox, but one of my friends has apparently had to replace his Xbox twice because of the red ring of death.
I have only gone through one xbox and it had the red ring of death. the xbox only seems to last about a year maybe a year and a half. depending. yeah they can probably last more than that but most are unlucky and tend to get the red ring of death.

Only a year? They're so expensive too.... >.>

I actually just asked him about it again and apparently he's just sent in the same Xbox to be repaired twice rather than buying two new ones like I thought. But, he said, "their customer service is so bad it takes three weeks to get it back."

Spyrorocks · Dec 12, 2009 8:35 AM

Players don't "host" games themselves, thats stupid, regular connections could never handle it and who knows if their router is configured to allow such things. They create sessions on the server which other people join.

It costs money to keep servers running. Id rather pay less for the console and then pay again if I want to use it online, that way im not paying for the upkeep of something I don't use.

Most people do say that the live online service is a hundred times better than the playstation online, I, myself, haven't tried either. (If your xbox works wink )

If I was going to buy a new console, id probably buy a ps3 for its bluray player and decent streaming.

midget_roxx · Dec 12, 2009 1:58 PM

Spyrorocks wrote:

Players don't "host" games themselves, thats stupid, regular connections could never handle it and who knows if their router is configured to allow such things. They create sessions on the server which other people join.
It costs money to keep servers running. Id rather pay less for the console and then pay again if I want to use it online, that way im not paying for the upkeep of something I don't use.
Most people do say that the live online service is a hundred times better than the playstation online, I, myself, haven't tried either. (If your xbox works )
If I was going to buy a new console, id probably buy a ps3 for its bluray player and decent streaming

Actaully no. Xbox Live sets up a person to act as a host and lets other people join. Infinity Ward did the same thing with MW2 claiming to "enhance gaming" which failed spectaculy on PC.

As for the Xbox360, it does work and what the OP has been reading is old posts. The RRoD is a manufactoring fault, by the Xbox having overheating problems and causing the RRoD. Microsoft has fixed this problem and if you buy a 360 now you will be gurenteed to not have any more problems than the PS3 or Wii.

Just a tip, if you do buy a Wii (or your parents wink ) expect to be bored of it within a week )

3463 · Dec 12, 2009 7:30 PM

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SapphireSheep · Dec 12, 2009 10:49 PM

Stormy wrote:

Only a year? They're so expensive too.... >.>
I actually just asked him about it again and apparently he's just sent in the same Xbox to be repaired twice rather than buying two new ones like I thought. But, he said, "their customer service is so bad it takes three weeks to get it back."

yeah it is pretty expensive but I think they are coming out with something soon (I dont know how soon, maybe a couple of years) that I think is going to be called the xbox 720. and it should be much better than the 360 and hopefully lasts longer and dosen't have the red rings

midget_roxx · Dec 13, 2009 2:17 PM

Dracokon wrote:

The Wii is an okay console. The problem was not Nintendo's fault. They lessened the requirements to have your games published on their console because they wanted to allow in a huge wave of unique games and fresh ideas from new developers. In their minds they were hoping that some developers would aspire to making new breeds of puzzle games and adventure games using their Wiimote as creatively as possible. Games like Boom Blocks and a couple of others represent this successful attaining of Nintendo's wishes. However most developers took this as an incentive to stagnate the market with a bunch of terrible games and buckets upon buckets of "40 in 1" party game titles rather than try and be creative, and that's pretty sad.
There are a few solid titles for the Wii that will keep you coming back for more, but they extremely few and far inbetween.

Sounds a bit like Atari tongue . I for one however enjoy coming home from work and not having to wave my arms about to play a game, when really all I want is to sit down on the couch smile

3463 · Dec 13, 2009 8:43 PM

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Neotyguy40 · Dec 13, 2009 10:38 PM

Spyrorocks wrote:

Players don't "host" games themselves, thats stupid, regular connections could never handle it and who knows if their router is configured to allow such things. They create sessions on the server which other people join.

What? Of course players host the games. There are 1000s of online games played on the 360 at all times. No amount of bandwidth from a single software company could run all those games, no matter how much money they received from it. And normal internet connections can handle it. The average person has a 10 mb/s bandwidth amount for downloading, and a 2 mb/s bandwidth amount for uploading. It only requires about 32 kb for each tick from a fast paced FPS, and the average game tick is 256 ms. A fast paced FPS could hold about 16 players without any lag with the average connection.

dragon protector x · Dec 14, 2009 1:11 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Spyrorocks wrote:
Players don't "host" games themselves, thats stupid, regular connections could never handle it and who knows if their router is configured to allow such things. They create sessions on the server which other people join.
What? Of course players host the games. There are 1000s of online games played on the 360 at all times. No amount of bandwidth from a single software company could run all those games, no matter how much money they received from it. And normal internet connections can handle it. The average person has a 10 mb/s bandwidth amount for downloading, and a 2 mb/s bandwidth amount for uploading. It only requires about 32 kb for each tick from a fast paced FPS, and the average game tick is 256 ms. A fast paced FPS could hold about 16 players without any lag with the average connection.

You need a server to host. How players "host" is by creating a section in the companies Server that you "host" the reason if some one has a bad connection and the room closes is because the person "creating the room" loses connection and the room collapses. which means they arent hosting and there is no room any more...

Ghakimx · Dec 14, 2009 5:57 AM

^ I don't know if you're serious or just trolling.

MixedUpMeows · Dec 14, 2009 9:29 AM

Well, at first the RRoD was caused due ti time limits so they didn't have time to install proper fans in the 360
they have fixed it a bit making it less frequent to happen, but from what I heard , people still are getting it

I have had mine since christmas 07 so its almost 2 years old and its never got close to overheating (only froze twice on SR and SR2)

but either way, microsoft needs to fix the RRoD properly and stop relying on us to buy our own fans

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