What computer do YOU use?

Neotyguy40 · Jul 19, 2009 7:41 PM

Spyrorocks wrote:

Ive been reading a lot from Neotyguy40 about how you can build your own mac... well I hope you know its against apple's terms of service to install OSX on non-apple hardware

There is no warranty, it's just as if you hack your iPhone to work with other carriers, same thing.

Spyrorocks wrote:

Neotyguy40: You can't just "decompile" executable binary. It doesn't work that way, once its compiled theres no getting it back to source code state. You can dissassemble it in assembler, but thats hardly similar to C/++/any other language other than assembler.

It takes work, and you need to know what language it was created in, etc. Yet it is possible. There are a few things that decompilers don't do, they give random names to variables for instance.

Spyrorocks wrote:

Neotyguy40: "Clock speeds are almost 50% faster than Windows" If you had a processor 50% faster than the pc you were comparing to, then it would have a clock speed thats 50% faster. Clock speed reffers to the speed of the processor and changing the operating system doesn't magically make your processor faster.

Different operating systems do make the computer faster while using it. I am talking about if 2 computers have the same processor, RAM, etc. OS X can go almost 50% faster when using the same applications.

Spyrorocks wrote:

Neotyguy40: Your comparisons on different pc manufacturers are pretty much invalid. How can you have a computer thats good for gaming, but cant "process"? Doesn't make sense. As with all computer manufactuers, the more you pay the more you get. The Dell XPS machines are pretty cool, loaded with lots of goodies for less than $1500.

Process, as in math. I can't explain it all in one post, so I just suggest you look it up if you want to know about it.

Spyrorocks wrote:

Neotyguy40: "The reason is because OS X is limited on Mac computers, and since it comes from one company, everything works smoothly on it." Or because apple doesn't want companies to produce cheaper hardware so apple can continue its hardware monoply for its machines and suck people's wallets dry.

Whatever the reason you think it is, it still all comes from one person.

Spyrorocks wrote:

Neotyguy40: "they use the least amount of energy to perform and are much more recyclable then the plastic ones." So macs aren't made of plastic? LOL

Only one computer is made out plastic for Mac. And that type of computer is almost 4 years old now.

Spyrorocks wrote:

I don't understand why id want to run OSX... If I can do everything I do on windows on OSX, and vice versa, then why should I waste my time? Ill always program for windows, programming for osx is like making a car that can only drive on 5% of the roads.

It's because Mac is cross-platform. Everything that I make on Mac I can port to windows in less then half an hour.

Your opinion is your opinion alone, as I said before, I do NOT want to open a Mac vs. PC debate on this thread, if anyone wants to say anything bad about PCs or about Macs, then please make it on another thread. All I asked was what type of computers you all use, just because someone asked why people bag on Dell machines, doesn't mean that you all must open a Mac vs PC debate because I told him my honest opinion of why I think other PCs and Macs are more useful...

Spyrorocks · Jul 19, 2009 7:56 PM

No, when you install OSX onto non apple hardware, it is in breech of their EULA, and in breech of your agreement, it is illegal.

You CANNOT decompile compiled binary code back into the language it was created in. Its just not possible. You can decompile to assembly, but thats the lowest level next to binary you will get.

I don't know what your basing your 50% faster thing from...

Whatever you say, it doesn't matter, you said clock speed was 50% faster when that makes absolutly no sense because an operating system cannot magically change your processor speed.

No, apple hardware doesn't come from apple, its made by the same companies that make hardware for other desktop and laptop computers.

You were just saying how you can run anything from windows on mac... so why wouldn't I program directly on windows and screw the mac port?

Swaffy · Jul 19, 2009 10:02 PM

An old one from when I was in *bleeping* 5th grade. It was the family
PC, and is now mine.

Gay desktop thing that is weak and can't stand up to any viruses.
[Swaffy needs Kaspersky.]

It's a HP.

Sir not appearing here · Jul 19, 2009 10:27 PM

Atresac wrote:

Sir not appearing here wrote:
I was just thinking about asking this! I use a Dell Inpiron 1720 laptop with a 17'' screen with a 32 bit Vista operating system. The one odd thing about it is that it has a number pad like a desktop on it but it makes typing numbers soooooo much easier then the numbers on the top.
Nice, I was looking at that when I was shopping for computers. I was really diggin' on the studio 15, mostly because of the slick fingerprint reader it has. But they didn't have it, so I went with this 1525 instead.
I don't get why so many people rag on Dell computers. They're very good, reliable, and inexpensive machines.

Well I don't know much about computers but I think Dell is a great brand.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 19, 2009 10:45 PM

Spyrorocks wrote:

No, when you install OSX onto non apple hardware, it is in breech of their EULA, and in breech of your agreement, it is illegal.

It's called a Hacintosh big_smile

Spyrorocks wrote:

You CANNOT decompile compiled binary code back into the language it was created in. Its just not possible. You can decompile to assembly, but thats the lowest level next to binary you will get.

I was able to do it.

Spyrorocks wrote:

]Whatever you say, it doesn't matter, you said clock speed was 50% faster when that makes absolutly no sense because an operating system cannot magically change your processor speed.

Ok, when I say clock speed, I mean how fast the computer runs.

Spyrorocks wrote:

No, apple hardware doesn't come from apple, its made by the same companies that make hardware for other desktop and laptop computers.

That... Makes no sense... Apple hardware comes from Apple, hence the word Apple hardware... The shell, the screen, and everything that is considered Apple hardware is made by Apple. Not the GPU or CPU, that isn't Apple hardware.

Spyrorocks wrote:

You were just saying how you can run anything from windows on mac... so why wouldn't I program directly on windows and screw the mac port?

Because it requires work on the users part. I could care less what you program your stuff on.

Now again, can we please just drop this and stay on-topic?

RedDragonX · Jul 20, 2009 12:37 AM

I have several computers but I'll just put down my favorite and one I use the most:

Gateway FX (Orange) P-7805u
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400
@ 2.26 GHz 2.27 GHz
4.00 GB RAM
64 Bit OS
1.3 MP Built in WebCam
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS 1GB discrete video
High-Res 17'' screen

As for the whole Mac vs. PC thing if you guys want to argue about it take it to another thread but I agree with Altresac and SR on the subject.

midget_roxx · Jul 20, 2009 2:16 AM

A motherborad of some form xD (i've forgotten what it is buts its got 2 RAM slots, 3 PCI-E slots)
1024mb RAM DDR2
1.81 GHz AMD 64 3000+
RADEON X800 XT 256mb
Windows XP (the awesome one wink )
hp Pavilion f1503 monitor (someting like 17")

And im not sure what my case is hmm

BTW Windows is better for gaming, yet Mac makes the better computers. Mac tends to forus more on the office or casual user and especailly on media production and music. The only reason Windows is better for gaming is because noone seems to make stuff for Macs xD

Neotyguy40 · Jul 20, 2009 3:29 AM

midget_roxx wrote:

A motherborad of some form xD (i've forgotten what it is buts its got 2 RAM slots, 3 PCI-E slots)
1024mb RAM DDR2
1.81 GHz AMD 64 3000+
RADEON X800 XT 256mb
Windows XP (the awesome one )
hp Pavilion f1503 monitor (someting like 17")
And im not sure what my case is
BTW Windows is better for gaming, yet Mac makes the better computers. Mac tends to forus more on the office or casual user and especailly on media production and music. The only reason Windows is better for gaming is because noone seems to make stuff for Macs xD

You build your computer?

Nightfall · Jul 20, 2009 6:52 PM

Heh. I'm not very technical at all, so I'm gonna keep it short and simple:

A Toshiba laptop. Yay! big_smile

Erza · Jul 21, 2009 9:36 AM

my computer crashed so i kicked it about 7 times. now its kinda screwed up. lol.

So now i use my dads Mac.

nintendofreak · Jul 21, 2009 4:40 PM

Lol i am still using my ancient computer i got back in christmas 2001 wink atleast it still works.

Andy123 · Jul 21, 2009 5:00 PM

My dad is an eletical enginer woring for the military so he build my computer and it is the best thing ever lol smile

Daxter · Jul 21, 2009 5:33 PM

I have two PC´s that i use. 1 for Internet and Media Stuff, and 1 for Gaming.
I builded both by myself.

My Online PC have :

Mainboard Socket 939 ( don´t know much more about that one. Got it from a Acer complete PC

CPU : AMD Athlon 64 with 2,2 GHZ
1,5 GB DDR 1 / 400 MHZ Ram´s
ATI Radeon X 1900 XTX Graphic Card
250 GB HDD
640 GB HDD
DvD burning Drive

My Gaming PC have:

Mainboard : Foxconn Destroyer
CPU : AMD Phenom II 940
8 GB OCZ DDR 2 1066 MHZ Platinum Ram´s
Graphic Card : Zotac 295 GTX ( nvidia )
WD 300 GB Velociraptor HDD ( 10000 RpM )
Blue Ray burning Drive

LordCrump10 · Jul 22, 2009 1:52 AM

Model: Dell Dimension 8250 (yes, that's ancient by today's standards)
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Processor Speed 2.33 GHz
Memory (RAM) 512 MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Operating System Version 5.1.2600
Internet Browser: Mozilla Firefox
Anti-Virus software: AVG Anti-Virus Free 8.5 / Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware / OpenDNS Dashboard

It's so low-technicaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal! *brick'd*

Erza · Jul 22, 2009 5:59 AM

nintendofreak wrote:

Lol i am still using my ancient computer i got back in christmas 2001 atleast it still works.

mines older. 1997.

Spinner the Faun · Jul 22, 2009 4:00 PM

I use to many computers to name, I have 3 in my studio, one in my living room, 3 in the bedroom, and 8 laptops over all.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 22, 2009 6:27 PM

Spinner the Faun wrote:

I use to many computers to name, I have 3 in my studio, one in my living room, 3 in the bedroom, and 8 laptops over all.

I'm not talking about all computers... Just the top 1 or 2 you use the most.

If I counted all the computers I have, it would be almost 20... Although 5 of them are really old...

Spinner the Faun · Jul 22, 2009 7:22 PM

Probably my Packard Bell in my studio, but I only use that for recording music and producing records. My main internet one would be Notinol100 laptop.

midget_roxx · Jul 28, 2009 6:56 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

You build your computer?

Cause. Buying retail is about $1000 extra depending on what you get.
And believe me when you find out how ridiculously easy it is to build a computer you will be kicking yourself xD.

SpiritofCynder · Aug 04, 2009 6:07 PM

My "Torrent" Machine: Custom Built
AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.5 GHz
2GB DDR2 667 SDRAM
200GB SATA-II HDD
48x32x48x16 CD/RW/DVD-RAM
Integrated NVidia 6200
Gigabit LAN
Zenwalk Linux

My Laptop
Its a Gateway Pre-built
Intel Core 2 Centrino 1.8 GHz
2GB DDR2 667 SDRAM
160GB SATA HDD
48x32x48x16 CD/RW/DVD-RAM
Intel Extreme 945 Graphics of some sort
Also has Zenwalk Linux

My Desktop: Custom Built
AMD Athlon64 3700 2.2GHz
2GB DDR400 SDRAM
500GBx3 SATAII HDD
GeForce 8500GT 512MB
48x32x48x16 CD/RW/DVD-RAM
52x32x52 CD/RW
48x16 CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
SuSe Linux 11.1 x86-64

Sora · Aug 12, 2009 1:16 AM

Type of Computer: Laptop
Operating System: IBM ThinkPad
I don't know about the others.

For my home computer, I'm not sure. It's the newest iMac, and I love it to death, but I don't know any of the details. ^^"

~cornys~ · Aug 12, 2009 3:18 AM

Here is a scenario. There are 2 people that have no computers. Or anything to do with computers. One of them goes with Alienware, one with Mac:
Now let's see the specs for the cheapest Alienware computer on their site:
AMD Athlon 2.7GHz Dual Core 2
512MB NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM
250GB SATA 7200RPM
Now let's check the cheapest iMac:
2GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM
320GB Serial ATA Drive
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
iMac has a better HDD, better RAM, and slightly better Processor.
Alienware has a better GPU, but only by about 8% more power.
Now we need to buy the other things for Alienware:
Cheapest monitor: $299
Cheapest keyboard: $85
Cheapest mouse: $65
The iMac on the other hand comes with all of that. So let's check the prices now:
iMac: $1,199
Alienware: $1,248
Well what do you know? That's that! $50 more for less power. Not to mention that the Mac is greener, takes less space, and you can install Windows onto it as well as Mac.
I'll do a laptop comparison later when I have more time.

Things always seam to be more expecive online though.... I don't have a side on this but... just pointing this out....

Spyrorocks · Aug 12, 2009 4:19 AM

Intel® Core™ i7-920 processor(8MB L3 Cache, 2.66GHz)
1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
No Productivity software pre-installed
3GB DDR3 Tri-Channel SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 DIMMs
500GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
No Monitor
ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
Dell Studio Consumer Multimedia Keyboard
Dell Studio Optical Mouse
No Modem Option
Integrated 10/1000 Ethernet

$899

[Source]

Lancer232 · Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM

Computer got upgrades for my birthday.

New Stats:
Type: Desktop
Operating System: XP
Processor: Core 2 Quad
Memory: 4GB DDR2 SDRAM
Graphics Card: Nvidia 9500GT 1GB
Hard Drive(s): 1 80GB (main), 1 280GB (storage, more install space)

Erza · Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM

we bought a new computer today. its a mac mini... its too small hmm

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