Evolution or Design

Kamineko · Jul 18, 2009 4:33 PM

Which do you believe?

Neotyguy40 · Jul 18, 2009 6:43 PM

Ahaha! I thought the thread said Evolution of Dance. One of my favorite youtube videos.

I would have to say evolution. I'm not very religious, and I think it is obvious that DNA is above religion with all the proof.

DarkMaster · Jul 18, 2009 10:22 PM

Evolution for Me

midget_roxx · Jul 19, 2009 2:13 PM

I'm skeptical about both. I'm not religious so that rules that theory out yet the evolution one I can't quite understand.

Theorists tell us that the genes mutate every so often and its when these mutation benefit the creature then it ivovles. BUT... what about the eye ...? It's so complex and if its slightly out of shape then it doesn't work at all. So someone has to tell me how the hell a mutation manages to get it exactly right not jsut for 1 creature, but milllions all over the Earth :\

Neotyguy40 · Jul 19, 2009 4:17 PM

midget_roxx wrote:

I'm skeptical about both. I'm not religious so that rules that theory out yet the evolution one I can't quite understand.
Theorists tell us that the genes mutate every so often and its when these mutation benefit the creature then it ivovles. BUT... what about the eye ...? It's so complex and if its slightly out of shape then it doesn't work at all. So someone has to tell me how the hell a mutation manages to get it exactly right not jsut for 1 creature, but milllions all over the Earth :\

I can explain that:

If your eye is slightly misshaped, it will still work... It just means you need glasses! Yes, that is one of the most common reasons people need glasses.

But so far, we are unsure about how evolution works. We understand most of it, but some things we still do not know. Such as how do the genes change? That is a reason why we have stem cell research, because if we can unlock our blueprints, we can change them and make ourselves smarter, stronger, faster, etc. And we can kill diseases easily.

How does evolution work though? Well let's just say this... There are 2 kinds of mutation; cancerous, and natural. Cancerous is mutation when a cell splits into more cells and the structure changes. This is usually bad because they lose their function and overrun other good cells, and it usually can't be given to offspring. Natural occurs at conception, and this is the most common form of evolution, we still don't know how it happens, but it happens to almost everyone. The small edits in our genes gave us our differences between each other.

When a natural evolution occurs, and it by chance helps an animal survive, then that animal will survive and give offspring, while other animals of their species will die out because they don't have this gene that helps them survive.

Right now, we sort of broke the cycle. Now people that have natural mutations that hinder themselves will still live, and if they reproduce, then their children will have that hindering effect.

SpyroGirl101 · Jul 19, 2009 4:56 PM

I am very religous and believe without even a hint of a doubt that God spoke the world into existance. First off, my being religous rules out me believing in evolution. Secondly, I don't see how in the world the society we live in today could come about by chance, by accident. It just doesn't seem right. I mean, seriously give it some thought. It is extremely apparent that God planned how he wanted the world created and created it that way.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 19, 2009 5:00 PM

SpyroGirl101 wrote:

I don't see how in the world the society we live in today could come about by chance, by accident.

Drake's equation

SpyroGirl101 · Jul 19, 2009 5:46 PM

Because God loved me, He sent His only begotten son to die for me on the cross to pay for ALL of my sins (and He payed for yours too so you can have an eternal home in Heaven with Him and be saved from an eternity in Hell if you only accept Him) so therefore I have an equatin that rises above all others: 3 nails + 1 cross = 4given

Swaffy · Jul 19, 2009 10:27 PM

Same, SpyroGirl. People try to make up ways in which to say that
Evolution is true, but in the end, makes absolutely no sense. People
say, "Oh, that sounds like it could be true ... let's believe it."

Idols.

Idols are statues. People pick them up, drag them to a new spot, and that
statue doesn't move. At all. They cannot aid anybody, talk to anybody,
heal them, look at them, think, or even give them anything. It's all in the
preson's head. My youth pastor was talking about idols last Wednesday,
and he was talking about how idols cannot do anything but be a formed
cement figure. Only One can move and do miracles that nobody [or
nothing] else can do.

That's all I'm going to say. I don't want to get banned for forming or
being part of another stupid arguement.

SpyroGirl101 · Jul 19, 2009 10:51 PM

Swaffy wrote:

Same, SpyroGirl. People try to make up ways in which to say that
Evolution is true, but in the end, makes absolutely no sense. People
say, "Oh, that sounds like it could be true ... let's believe it."
Idols.
Idols are statues. People pick them up, drag them to a new spot, and that
statue doesn't move. At all. They cannot aid anybody, talk to anybody,
heal them, look at them, think, or even give them anything. It's all in the
preson's head. My youth pastor was talking about idols last Wednesday,
and he was talking about how idols cannot do anything but be a formed
cement figure. Only One can move and do miracles that nobody [or
nothing] else can do.
That's all I'm going to say. I don't want to get banned for forming or
being part of another stupid arguement.

You, my friend, are exactly correct. Nobody hardly ever sticks up for God anymore. We should be friends. =]

Kamineko · Jul 19, 2009 10:57 PM

Swaffy wrote:

Evolution is true, but in the end, makes absolutely no sense. People
say, "Oh, that sounds like it could be true ... let's believe it."

It... actually makes perfect sense. That's why it's taught in schools. It's why 99% of educated scientists and biologists support it. It's not because it just sounds like it could be true.. it's because, well... all the evidence says that it is.

SpyroGirl101 wrote:

Secondly, I don't see how in the world the society we live in today could come about by chance, by accident. It just doesn't seem right.

You're absolutely right. Society as we know it didn't just come about by chance or accident. That wouldn't make sense at all.

Society came about because man made it, because it's much more efficient to live in than just... non-society.

SpyroGirl101 · Jul 19, 2009 11:07 PM

Atresac wrote:

Swaffy wrote:
Evolution is true, but in the end, makes absolutely no sense. People
say, "Oh, that sounds like it could be true ... let's believe it."
It... actually makes perfect sense. That's why it's taught in schools. It's why 99% of educated scientists and biologists support it. It's not because it just sounds like it could be true.. it's because, well... all the evidence says that it is.
SpyroGirl101 wrote:
Secondly, I don't see how in the world the society we live in today could come about by chance, by accident. It just doesn't seem right.
You're absolutely right. Society as we know it didn't just come about by chance or accident. That wouldn't make sense at all.
Society came about because man made it, because it's much more efficient to live in than just... non-society.

You know what I mean you smart elick. <_<

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