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#1 Oct 07, 2008 1:03 AM

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I found this rather interesting.

http://vhemt.org/

They believe in the voluntary extinction in the human race by not having any more children. They believe that it needs to be done to protect the environment. While I do not believe in the extinction of humans (and I'm not a tree-hugging hippie), I do believe that people need to take care of the children that there already are, instead of just having new ones.


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#2 Oct 07, 2008 1:19 AM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

That's an idea that I wouldn't have thought of. I think people just need to be more conscious of the environment. We are slowly becoming more aware of the problems; I just hope that people will be in time. We are animals like the other species, and we are thriving with what we've been given. We just need to give back to the animals and environment around us.

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#3 Oct 07, 2008 1:22 AM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

In one of the many ways to preserve the ecosystem, environmentalists do suggest to find ways to stop population growth, but bringing extinction to your race definitely isn't one of them. That's called going a little too far. Heh,  well "little" is a gross understatement. Also, think about it...how would this group go about stopping people across the globe from giving birth to children, nevermind getting any endorsement or support from the government to do so? I hope this group gives birth to some better brains instead.

@DDR: most people are aware of the environment. Their willingness to change from their typical habits is the key - to what degree are you willing to save ___ , and to what expense will you be willing to pay for it (in the form of taxes, new regulations, etc.)?
P.S. The impoverished cannot afford to make the changes that other, more well to do people are in order to preserve the ecosystem. No, I'm not talking about natives or nomads, but people in plain poverty - in their state, they have little to no room to make way for environmental reform.

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#4 Oct 07, 2008 1:25 AM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

bmah wrote:

In one of the many ways to preserve the ecosystem, environmentalists do suggest to find ways to stop population growth, but bringing extinction to your race definitely isn't one of them. That's called going a little too far. Heh,  well "little" is a gross understatement. Also, think about it...how would this group go about stopping people across the globe from giving birth to children, nevermind getting any endorsement or support from the government to do so? I hope this group gives birth to some better brains instead.

Yeah, even if a lot of people agreed with them, get the whole world to stop giving birth? I don't think so. Fewer population wouldn't be that bad an idea, but I don't like the idea of trying to control the whole world into doing something. It just wouldn't work.

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#5 Oct 07, 2008 1:46 AM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

I was thinking recently that there is probably a group like this. I hope they realize that they will never get a worthwhile amount of the human population to follow them.

This kinda makes me think of Welcome to the Monkey House, where the government tries to convince people to commit suicide to reduce the population: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to … key_House_


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#6 Oct 07, 2008 12:31 PM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

@DDR: most people are aware of the environment. Their willingness to change from their typical habits is the key - to what degree are you willing to save ___ , and to what expense will you be willing to pay for it (in the form of taxes, new regulations, etc.)?
P.S. The impoverished cannot afford to make the changes that other, more well to do people are in order to preserve the ecosystem. No, I'm not talking about natives or nomads, but people in plain poverty - in their state, they have little to no room to make way for environmental reform.

Yeah, you have a point there. Many people know about things already, but just don't have the money or time to do it. (Or they just can't be bothered at all.) Taxes would probably be a huge issue too.

That's also a good point about the impoverished, but if the big countries with resources and money try and make a difference, it still would help the cause a lot.

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#7 Oct 07, 2008 1:23 PM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

We might need to decrease our population to give nature room to breathe, but extinction seems a little extreme and unnecessary, like bmah said.

If poverty in developing countries is addressed, and if poor people are a bit wealthier, then they won’t have such a need to have lots of children to help till the soil on their farm, they could afford to buy a tractor instead. And they’ll be able to support themselves in retirement instead of having to have, say, eight kids to take care of them and support them. And when parents have less need to have lots of kids, then they’ll have fewer kids, and they’ll be able to focus more resources into the one or two kids they have, instead of eight.... the parents could afford to send them to college so the kids can be successful as well. Sort of like what DDR said...

DDR_Maniac wrote:

That's also a good point about the impoverished, but if the big countries with resources and money try and make a difference, it still would help the cause a lot.


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#8 Oct 07, 2008 1:52 PM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

I always thought hippies were always complaining whenever some group of animals is nearing extinction, but now humans are supposed to off themselves?

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#9 Oct 07, 2008 4:53 PM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

I say hell no to this I expect to grow up have children and my children will do the same we sould all be thinking of our own species first


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#10 Oct 07, 2008 8:15 PM

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Re: I found this rather interesting.

Atresac wrote:

I always thought hippies were always complaining whenever some group of animals is nearing extinction, but now humans are supposed to off themselves?

Well, I'm the hippy that thinks "killing to underpopulate" is all crap with both humans and animals so this "off ourselves" theory is crap.

They want us to populate less? Help society accept homosexuality.

(By the way, that was a joke. I realize for every homosexual couple that doesn't breed, there is a heterosexual couple that breeds more than once to compensate.)


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