the cutest spyro cupules

Razz · Sep 03, 2008 4:03 AM

The main reason they can't be friends in these situations is because that just doesn't happen in movies (or epics, unless both characters are of the same gender, and even then it's not always assured). According to movie logic, Spyro/Cynder is already canon.

Fletch_Talon · Sep 03, 2008 8:02 AM

Razz wrote:

The main reason they can't be friends in these situations is because that just doesn't happen in movies (or epics, unless both characters are of the same gender, and even then it's not always assured). According to movie logic, Spyro/Cynder is already canon.

harry and hermione (im sure there's been some moments between them)

and think about it, hermione was the only "major" female character in all the books

even looney luna lovegood was more prominent than Ginny, though not as frequent

though i admit, harry potter is more an exception to the rule

im gonna have to agree with razz overall, spyro and cynder will be a couple, i would have backed brother/sister but the creators went and ruined that idea

ember_da_dragon · Sep 03, 2008 9:35 AM

how did they i mean ok they ARE bro and sis
and they do look cute as a couple but they didn't
wreak the idea of them as bro and sis and
anyway spyro thought about cynder cause
he was worried that's all -.- he did go to
all that trouble to rescue her and she runs
of like she doesn't like spyro helping her
anyway i don't remember saying my cutest couples
zoe-sparx don't ask
spyro-ember :wub:
elora-blink
i have more but i don't remember them...

Fletch_Talon · Sep 03, 2008 11:59 AM

ember_da_dragon wrote:

how did they i mean ok they ARE bro and sis
and they do look cute as a couple but they didn't
wreak the idea of them as bro and sis and
anyway spyro thought about cynder cause
he was worried that's all -.- he did go to
all that trouble to rescue her and she runs
of like she doesn't like spyro helping her
anyway i don't remember saying my cutest couples
zoe-sparx don't ask
spyro-ember :wub:
elora-blink
i have more but i don't remember them...

the creators have apparently made it very clear that spyro and cynder are not related, they felt the need to do so because the manual of one of the DS games claimed they were brother/sister

Kazoobie64 · Sep 03, 2008 12:17 PM

Wait, the manual? Really? I thought it was the GBA intro to The Eternal Night. Man, if they made the same mistake twice I'll be seriously laughing here.

Fletch_Talon · Sep 03, 2008 12:20 PM

Kazoobie64 wrote:

Wait, the manual? Really? I thought it was the GBA intro to The Eternal Night. Man, if they made the same mistake twice I'll be seriously laughing here.

im only going by badly remembered second hand information

id say it was the gba intro if thats what you remember

Razz · Sep 03, 2008 6:38 PM

It was the intro to the GBA (or DS; I forget which handheld) version of TEN that had the goof about Cynder being Spyro's sister. Chris Wilson, one of the two main writers of LoS and a producer, signed onto Sierra to publically announce that Cynder and Spyro are in no way related. Amaze, the makers of the handheld LoS games, also announced that they'd made an error. So, no, they are not related, so sayeth the word of God (look it up on TV Tropes). End of story. Also, there is nothing in the console versions to suggest they are related, and console canon > handheld canon. big_smile

As for the Harry/Hermione thing, there were actually massive hints from book 2 that cemented the Harry/Ginny relationship and none to suggest Harry/Hermione (though a few to suggest Hermione/Ron). Any H/H moments in later books were JK Rowling messing with the obnoxious fans (book 7 was a riot because of that XD).

Kazoobie64 · Sep 03, 2008 8:12 PM

Razz wrote:

Also, there is nothing in the console versions to suggest they are related, and console canon > handheld canon.

I don't know about this, I think it's just individual interpretation. I will make it clear straight away that I know they aren't siblings, but I'm just saying there must have been some form of hinture that made people, even the guys in charge of making the handheld versions apparently, mistake them for siblings.

I have some friends that I let borrow A New Beginning that predicted them being siblings. (The conversation summarized from one of my friends: "*after saying what he thought of the game and story* Although I think it's cool that Spyro might have had a sister. Was the black dragon supposed to be his sister?" and I said "I dunno, maybe." I didn't know at that time either.) I've got an 11-year-old cousin that played it last year and also played The Eternal Night this year and still to this day is convinced that they are related because she doesn't go online to read up on it. Also, on this IRC chatroom I go to we were once discussing the look for Dawn of the Dragon, and during criticising the designs, this bit happened: (I've taken it straight from the log)

<Kazooie64> I can't stand Spyro's chest. Why is it so big?
<Jinjo_Eagle> His little girlfriend seems to sport one too. (This gal has never played these games.)
<RM_Trev> Um, isn't that supposed to his sister or whatever? Or am I thinking wrong? (He hasn't played the games and has only looked up information.)
<Jinjo_Eagle> oh, ew
<Tirlas> Trev, I think it's supposed to be his sister, yeah. (He's only played ANB.)
<Kazooie64> Um...
<Kazooie64> I don't know if I should wait until this game releases and expect hilarious reactions or I should mention it to you guys now
<TheNintenGenius> Stop sneaking cookies Kazooie

I also remember back when A New Beginning was released and The Eternal Night was still in production, that several people on message boards were wanting to support SpyroxCynder but were hesitant because of the possibility that they were related.

I'm just saying, even if others didn't see it, a lot of people took certain lines as pointing to a possible sibling outcome. So in some way, I still blame the console games for planting that possibility in my head.

PS. How did you guys know it was Chris Wilson that posted that? I'm not being stubborn and not believing you or anything, but I'm just curious to how you could tell him apart from someone that could have just signed up under his name. I've never been on those boards and all I've heard was "he posted a message on the Sierra forums" so I want some knowledge.

Razz · Sep 03, 2008 9:13 PM

Staff members on Sierra Forum have a specific kind of username. All the people who've been working on the games use it (as do one or two forum mods who are part of the design team for the websites). We know it's them because they sign on infrequently and all the information these people have given has been proved true by the games themselves (in the case of the talks with Mike, Eric and Chris).

As for the games themselves, in ANB it's sort of unclear. You can go either way on the issue: they came from the same group of eggs, therefore they must be related. Or, we don't know where the eggs came from, therefore they aren't related. Nothing was ever said that clarly indicates a sibling relationship between Spyro and Cynder, though, and there are no physical similarities between them. I think people get the sibling idea because, in this sort of story set-up, that's one of only two options for Cynder's role: she's either a sister or a love interest. Sparx's line about her being sexy is something of a giveaway about which role she is most likely to be in. big_smile

Just to make my own stance on all of this clear, I do support Spyro/Cynder, but I don't think they were romantic until sometime in/after DotD. They're just too young before then.

Kazoobie64 · Sep 03, 2008 10:20 PM

Thank you for clearing up that forum thing for me.

Also, it wasn't just the egg thing that confused people, (though that's one of the major ones) there were also several combinations of lines that we interpreted as hints and deeper meanings toward them being related. (Though they're not full-blown "You guys are siblings, lol" so we just considered them implications.) It's kind of the same thing as how you guys see the deeper meaning in other lines that lean towards romance, but for certain others, they saw lines that leaned toward something familial. Since the lines all appear in the first game, we were stuck with the thought of them being siblings and thus couldn't see the lines in TEN as anything else.

Such as:
Spyro: "There was something in her eyes, Ignitus, something familiar."
Ignitus: "There should be, Spyro, you and Cynder share more than you know."

and

"She IS just like me."

There was also the similar treatment she got from Ignitus as a sort of concerned and supporting parent, like he showed for Spyro, but that's just a minor one.

In my opinion, if they weren't intending that kind of relationship I seriously think they should have thought some of those lines through so as to not have confused so many people, including the handheld makers, and gone through that whole mess. But that's just me.

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