Do You Think Ignitus is Spyro's Father?

ratchet · Jul 14, 2008 5:58 AM

You're very welcome. Glad to hear you like a taste of your own medicine. Don't'cha just love sarcasm?

Taste of my own medicine? I'm sorry but i have no idea what my medicine is. If your talking about me insulting people i think your thinking of Doppel's pharmacy!

Okay, first you said it's predictable, now you say it's unbelievable? Can't make up your mind much?

No, i'm saying that its predictable that Sieera are going to make it like that, they just love cliches. I'm saying that its unbelievable because why does the Head guardian who happens not to die or hide in the dragon war, the one who concieves the purple dragon? Its like a story where the king was the one who gave birth to the propecy child, its just not interesting.

Actually, it's quite believable. Is it just me, or is it possible that Ignitus was looking at Spyro's egg lovingly at the beginning of ANB? If that's so, then they've been hinting at it from the very beginning, haven't they? And so what if he's a guardian and was one of the dragons who survived?

Theres a difference between it being beleivable that it would happen, or if it was believable that it should happen.

If Ignitus isn't Spyro's father, then Spyro's "real" father is most likely dead.

Certainly, or hiding underground. I'm sure that the 6 dragonwe see are not the only ones left.

And, do I need to repeat myself? If Ignitus isn't Spyro's biological father, it doesn't matter who is. Ignitus will still be his dragon father, only adopted. That's how a father-son bond works. Sorry, but whether you like it or not, they share a strong bond, and to Spyro, Ignitus will never be replaced by any other dragon. Try reading this fanfic (I'm sure you won't, but hey, worth a shot, eh?) : http://ignitus1992.deviantart.com/art/R … r-80452873

Ofcource, Ignitus is like Spyro's adpoted father, but we are talking about biological here.

And what's the point of introducing a completely new, undeveloped, pointless character to be Spyro's father when Ignitus fits the role perfectly?

Nothing, i didn't say it would happen, i just said it shouldn't happen

And furthermore, what about This Broken Soul? Isn't that evidence enough of their bond?

Just because Spyro has deep feelings for ignitus, doesn't mean they should be (or are) related in blood.

Sorry, but again, whether you like it or not, Ignitus is Spyro's dragon dad. No dragon will ever replace Ignitus as Spyro's dragon dad, because the actual bond matters much more than biological relation. If you can't accept that and are against it, that just means you have no appreciation for father-son bonds. Then again, most kids these days don't appreciate good parents - after all, you don't know what you have until you've lost it. Or in my case, you utterly lack something and wish all your life that you had it.

Thankyou for the insults which are said because you have easily ju,ped to conclusions.
believe me, i have no problem with Ignitus being Spyro's Adopted father/Father figure, i just saidf it would be stupid if ignitus was really Spyro's Biological father.
It would ruin it for me actually

I suggest you give it up. I'm never giving in on this matter and we're just going to butt heads till you get sick of arguing and give up anyway. So why don't we save both of us the trouble and wait till DotD when all those who voted "no" will eat humble pie? (hopefully >.> )

I dont think i have to repeat myself anymore

Lexy · Jul 14, 2008 5:22 PM

I think Ignius could actually be Spyro's farther, I never really thought about it....

I will laugh if in dawn of the dragon Ignitus says: ''Spyro, I am your farther.''

Cynder794 · Jul 14, 2008 5:40 PM

Has anyone else noticed that they walk the same? o___O

Lexy · Jul 14, 2008 7:04 PM

Do they?

*Watches vid on youtube*

OMG, they DO! Wow, I never noticed that!

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 14, 2008 9:35 PM

To Ratchet: Okay then, let me break it down for you.

Doppel is one of the nicest people on this forum. You, on the other hand? I'll sit on my hands not to type anything about you.

Who says he wasn't a common dragon before he became guardian? Just because he's the leader now doesn't mean he wasn't a nobody before. That's actually my whole theory that I'm going to write out sometime. Ignitus was chosen to be the fire guardian out of many fire dragons because not only did he have much potential, but he had a good heart. He was a nobody. I know it's only my crazy fanfic theory, but at least consider the possibility.

Hiding underground? The females and children most definitely, but I'm guessing most of the males went into the war. I'm not saying all of them did - I'm just saying most of them.

Ah, but then comes this: Why do we need to know who his biological dragon father is if it isn't Ignitus and if Ignitus is his adopted dragon dad? To Spyro, Ignitus will most definitely never be replaced by the "biological" father, so what would be the point?

Oh please. Are you trying to tell me that all along you were supporting Ignitus and Spyro's father-son bond and support the idea of Ignitus being Spyro's adopted father, but simply don't want them biologically related? If so, you should have(and would have) said it from the beginning. I see no evidence of your supporting their bond. It's hard to find stuff like that between all your posts bashing the new series(seriously, mind making other kinds of posts?). So if you're such a big supporter and had nothing against their bond all along and simply didn't want it to be "ruined" by their being biologically related, why didn't you phrase it that way in the first place? And if it's true, why don't you say it now, loud and clear, for all to know? Maybe then I'll be less hostile towards you. Actually, if you had said that from the beginning, maybe we wouldn't be arguing over this now. However, I honestly doubt you're any kind of fan of anything in the new series. I'd love for you to prove me wrong.

It wouldn't be stupid. For me, it wouldn't be. For me, it would actually make it all the more meaningful. And on another note, you know why else I really want Ignitus to be Spyro's biological father? Because, if he is, then maybe people will start taking their bond more seriously. Look around the fandom. How many people do you see actually supporting their BOND? Supporting Ignitus's being a father to Spyro, and Spyro being a son to Ignitus? I could make an entire ESSAY about their bond, what they've been through, how close they are, and how they've impacted each other's lives ever since they've met. That's how much attention I give to the storyline and how much I actually CARE about these characters. Do you see many other people giving as much thought and consideration? Or even half? TheManiacOnWheels is one. Razzek has started paying more attention to their bond as well, after she met me. And there are probably a few scattered others. But aside from that? If they were biologically related, people would take their bond *seriously*. THat's how it all works. If they're not biologically related, they simply aren't considered "true" father and son. WHICH. IS. RUBBISH. Biological relation means nothing. Life has taught me that. Adopted father and son can easily be closer than biological father and son. But most people simply don't realize that. I'd be perfectly happy if Ignitus *adopted* Spyro, *chose* him as his son, and Spyro gladly wanting him as his dragon dad. What I love is their actual *bond*, not the possibility of their being related. So I already have my cake. However, for some stupid reason, very few people are gonna eat out of it if they're not related biologically. So their being biologically related would not only be icing on my cake, but it would make more people eat it as well. Get my point?

As for the insults - cry me a river. You're the one who made your bad reputation.

Either way - you're ignoring an awful lot of hints and clues that point towards him being Spyro's biological father. I wouldn't mind if they actually were related, and it looks like it's going to happen. They look WAY too similar.

Can we drop it? Long posts are life-wasting, and I'm never giving up on the issue because it means too much to me.

To Aang: Thanks, dude big_smile . As for looking lovingly... well, I don't think dragons would've looked that way at the purple dragon's egg. Maybe more in awe or something, but not the way Ignitus dad. Meh, whatever XD.

ratchet · Jul 16, 2008 1:39 AM

Doppel is one of the nicest people on this forum. You, on the other hand? I'll sit on my hands not to type anything about you.

Wow, thankyou! Show me one post where i insulted someone.

Who says he wasn't a common dragon before he became guardian? Just because he's the leader now doesn't mean he wasn't a nobody before. That's actually my whole theory that I'm going to write out sometime. Ignitus was chosen to be the fire guardian out of many fire dragons because not only did he have much potential, but he had a good heart. He was a nobody. I know it's only my crazy fanfic theory, but at least consider the possibility.

I'm just saying that its a bit unbelievable that the leader of the whole thing, one of the few dragons that survived/didn't hide underground was the one who concieved the Purple dragon.

Hiding underground? The females and children most definitely, but I'm guessing most of the males went into the war. I'm not saying all of them did - I'm just saying most of them.

And yes, Ignitus, a dragon that happened to survive the war/not participate concieved the purple dragon.(sarcastic)

Ah, but then comes this: Why do we need to know who his biological dragon father is if it isn't Ignitus and if Ignitus is his adopted dragon dad? To Spyro, Ignitus will most definitely never be replaced by the "biological" father, so what would be the point?

We dont, but thats the subject of this thread.
So yes:
Ignitus is Spyro's adoptive father, and treats Spyro like he is a father. He will always be Spyro's father even though hes not biological
Ignitus is not Spyro's biological father

Oh please. Are you trying to tell me that all along you were supporting Ignitus and Spyro's father-son bond and support the idea of Ignitus being Spyro's adopted father, but simply don't want them biologically related?

Quite true!

If they're not biologically related, they simply aren't considered "true" father and son. WHICH. IS. RUBBISH.

I agree, it is rubbish.

As for the insults - cry me a river. You're the one who made your bad reputation.

I dont insult people

TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 16, 2008 1:43 AM

Uhhh...agree to disagree, anyone?

Spyro_Loves_Me · Jul 16, 2008 7:50 AM

Sheesh .. You guys could've written a novel by now ...

Anyways, Ignitus is really the only "father" Spyro has. So I feel he is his father.

ratchet · Jul 16, 2008 8:53 AM

TheManiacOnWheels wrote:

Uhhh...agree to disagree, anyone?

Yeah, I will.

But next time Ignitus Number 1 fan, please do not jump to conclusions on my opinion, and dont bash me for having my own opinion.

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 17, 2008 9:49 PM

To the last part: No, you don't insult people. Instead, you knowingly irritate them and don't care. You bash the new series with every chance you get, and frankly I avoid most of the forum sections just so I won't argue with you. On this particular topic, you merely stepped on the wrong nerve for me.

How did you want me to think that you actually are a supporter of Ignitus and Spyro's bond when:
A) As far as I know, you hate everything in TLoS and all the characters. But maybe I'm wrong about this, since I don't look on most of the topics. Are you a fan of any of the TLoS characters, or any of the bonds in TLoS? (You said Ignitus and Spyro's bond already, I know, but I thought I should just confirm that)
B ) What you said when you first posted on this topic didn't help matters. For example...
"its just annoying that ignitus is spyro's father, i'd like something unpredictable please."
You never clarified that you are against their being biologically related(for some reason that's beyond me) but support their actual bond. If you had stated that from the beginning, maybe we wouldn't be arguing right now. I suggest we continue this in PM, since I don't like how we're probably scaring off everyone from this poll.

About "unbelievable" - well, I could return the logic by saying it would be unbelievable if Ignitus and Spyro weren't related, because: their horns are exactly the same, their body shapes are extremely similar, their personalities are similar, and overall they are similar in many ways, not to mention that Spyro learned fire breath first - with that many traits, how can they not be biologically related?

I don't see how it's so unbelievable. It happens lots of times in stories like these, and even in real life. Is it so shocking that the current president of the United States is the son of a previous president of the United States? Things like that happen sometime. Maybe they're startling or make you wonder, but they're never completely unrealistic or "unbelievable".

Hmmm, yes, I'm aware that this is a poll about who is Spyro's biological father. Hey, wait... all it says is "Do you think Ignitus is Spyro's father". It doesn't specify biological! So by all means, since he's Spyro's adopted father, shouldn't you have voted yes tongue ? I'm messin with ya...

So glad that you agree it's rubbish! Now, the question is, how can we get everyone else to realize that fact?

For now, I'm going to give to apologize. I suppose I jumped to conclusions, though it was partially justified. I'm sorry for some of the things I said that were uncalled for. Better now?

It's just that you don't know what kinds of fans I've dealt with in the past. I can't help but be snappy on this issue.

Again, maybe we should continue this in PM.

To Aang: Agwee to disagwee? What ees dat yikes ? tongue

TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 18, 2008 12:35 AM

Huh? Stop messing with my mind!!!!:D.

ratchet · Jul 18, 2008 7:19 AM

Ignitus 1# fan: Yeah, I try to do my best to follow TLOS and get in on it, I like the story in TLOS, and the characters.

Anyway, yeah i should of really voted yes, but i'm pretty sure that the first Poster meant biological.

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 18, 2008 7:24 PM

Well if that's the case, I hope you'll show it more in the future and that I'll get to see that side of you more. Then we'll probably get along better.

Yes, I'm also sure that that's what the first poster meant. Note that I said "I'm just messin with ya". My last post wasn't as snappy as my other ones. So relax tongue . Once miscommunications and disagreements are resolved, I'm not as unbearable as I appear to be at first sight. Or at least I think tongue . (heck, none of you wanna know how Razz and I started out, and yet now we're really good friends).

ratchet · Jul 19, 2008 12:33 AM

Note that I said "I'm just messin with ya".

Yeah, ok, thanks!
smile

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 19, 2008 9:49 PM

ZOMG, we're actually not killing each other anymore XP! big_smile let's hope that will be the same for our encounters on the rest of the forum smile .

ember_da_dragon · Jul 19, 2008 11:33 PM

i thourt ignighes was red here r my reasons
first i think tlos was set in the past
seconed red did mention being a guardian or wat eva they call it
lastly they look alike
sorry if u don't agree with me :-X

TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 20, 2008 12:18 AM

But Red was bipedal, and Ignitus looks a whole lot better...not to mention he stands on four legs, their personalities are compltely different, etc...
And it's official information that the two series aren't connected, sorry ^^;.

ratchet · Jul 20, 2008 8:35 AM

i thourt ignighes was red here r my reasons
first i think tlos was set in the past
seconed red did mention being a guardian or wat eva they call it
lastly they look alike
sorry if u don't agree with me

yeah, Red looks nothing like ignitus, the only similarity is that they are both red, they are both dragons, they are both pretty old and they are the same gender, and that bot much!

Ignitus's #1fan · Jul 20, 2008 9:31 PM

a) It's confirmed that the new series is a reboot and has nothing to do with the old series.
b) Ignitus and Red do have a few slight similarities, but overall look completely different.

TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 21, 2008 9:49 AM

C.) That's exactly what I said big_smile .

ember_da_dragon · Aug 30, 2008 7:14 AM

hummmmmmmmmm (looks at pictures) i think they look alike......... who cares what i think im really silly when im bored zzzzzzz

Martial Arts Spyro · Oct 20, 2008 1:07 AM

I doubt it. i think his parents are dead.

dorrin · Oct 26, 2008 10:42 PM

made a comment about this in another thread before seeing this one. i voted yes, but agree with the statement that even if ignitus isn't spyro's biological father, the bond they share is close enough. i will also say that when i imagine spyro as an adult, i tend to model the image after how ignitus looks in a new beginning.

keithnbrit · Oct 29, 2008 3:47 AM

Malefor: Spyro ..(heavy breathing)... I am your father.

LOL i think i would throw my controller across the room if that happened at the end of DotD, i still havent finished it yet. Nobody ruin it lol

Cynder's #1 Fan · Nov 07, 2008 8:13 PM

I don't really think so. I mean, it could be possible that Ignitus is Spyro's father, but I doubt. Besides, aren't Sparx's parents Spyro's adopted parents?

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