Clinton out of race

pur · Jun 07, 2008 7:16 PM

C'mon, this is the fourth forum without this up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7441941.stm

A Guy · Jun 07, 2008 7:40 PM

Yes, now it's guaranteed that a black man will win if people vote for Democrats!

I hope that he wins. He'd be the first black president. Also, I like his platform better than John McCain's.

DragonFireOKN · Jun 07, 2008 8:42 PM

The only thing I don't like is Obama wants to disarm America. Also, he lies! He swears that he isn't a Muslim but then he says he wants to be sworn in on the Qu'ran. (Islamic holy book) Finally, he doesn't even put his hand over his heart in the pledge of alliegence or the national anthem. WARNING!!! The second video has the worst singer that I have ever heard!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfwKKxVC7_o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sompPPJbi4U&feature=related

Doppelgangergang · Jun 07, 2008 8:48 PM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

The only thing I don't like is Obama wants to disarm America.

Why? Then no weapons, no war! big_smile

But then again, you need defense.

Also, he lies! He swears that he isn't a Muslim but then he says he wants to be sworn in on the Qu'ran. (Islamic holy book)

Let's not start another religious debate. Expressing your beliefs, all right. Debating? No...

Finally, he doesn't even put his hand over his heart in the pledge of alliegence or the national anthem.

Now THAT. It is a sign of lack of respect to the country if you are right.

DragonFireOKN · Jun 07, 2008 9:19 PM

So, what do you think would happen if the most powerful country on Earth suddenly disarmed themselves. The world would fall into chaos. The only reason we haven't had WWIII is because the U.N. keeps things under control. If Obama disarmed America, no one could stop North Korea, Iran, and Russia from gaining more control in foreign policy.

spyros#1fan · Jun 07, 2008 9:29 PM

and he'll be thinking about those slavery days guys....which means he might want revenge and make us be slaves even though we dont deserve it...and i met bill clinton!

(please belive me because i really have...)

DragonFireOKN · Jun 07, 2008 9:54 PM

He can't reinstall slavery. No country in the world still uses it. Although he could make the U.S. the I.S. (Imperial States) Rome's government was nearly exactly like ours until Julius Caesar took over. It is possible.

Blaze the Dragon · Jun 08, 2008 12:35 AM

Actually DragonFireOKN, the United States cannot become the Imperial States, b/c then we'd have to start imperialism again, which was made illegal by the U.N. Even if the U.S. is a permanent member of the Security Council of the U.N. I believe that breaking the U.N.'s codes will break that immunity to being kicked off, and therefore... we'd be at war with the entire U.N. Not even the U.S. can take on all of those nations. We'd have to deal with the R.A.F. as well as the Bulgarian Air Force, and man, do they have a strong air force. In fact, that's why the Soviet Union wanted Bulgaria, for their air force. I believe that they have the 4th or 5th strongest air force in the world. We'd also have to deal with Russia, France, Germany, China, Japan, Spain.

So yeah, that would be the DUMBEST thing to do, turning us into an empire.

DragonFireOKN · Jun 08, 2008 1:03 AM

Hmm, when Rome was a republic, it was good. When it became an empire, it was great. Anyway, no one would win a nuclear war. Everyone loses.

A Guy · Jun 08, 2008 2:14 AM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

Hmm, when Rome was a republic, it was good. When it became an empire, it was great. Anyway, no one would win a nuclear war. Everyone loses.

M.A.D. whould probably be the result of a nuclear war.

dragon protector x · Jun 08, 2008 4:08 AM

*Cheers wildly* No Chance that she will attempt to band the production of all Mature games, Woot!

Doppelgangergang · Jun 08, 2008 4:25 AM

dragon protector x wrote:

*Cheers wildly* No Chance that she will attempt to band the production of all Mature games, Woot!

Hehe! I like to keep it T, but I somehow want to go to the dark side and get an M game. Someday, but not now. Still not old enough.

dragon protector x · Jun 08, 2008 4:32 AM

You could still play them, you just need parents permission....Except...A games....No one but 18 or older should play those...

Doppelgangergang · Jun 08, 2008 4:45 AM

No, because I have a low violence tolerance and easily get sick on violent games. I took a GTA 3 game disc and smashed it up because of... Well, you know...

But rendering extreme violence in my imagination as I read a book is ok.

RaidonMakoto · Jun 08, 2008 5:30 AM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

The only thing I don't like is Obama wants to disarm America. Also, he lies! He swears that he isn't a Muslim but then he says he wants to be sworn in on the Qu'ran. (Islamic holy book) Finally, he doesn't even put his hand over his heart in the pledge of alliegence or the national anthem. WARNING!!! The second video has the worst singer that I have ever heard!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfwKKxVC7_o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sompPPJbi4U&feature=related

1) He would not completely disarm America. This most likely refers to Nukes.
2) Obama is not a secret Muslim. That is a lie Fox News came up with. Even if he was a Muslim, there is nothing wrong with Islam.
3) That photo was taken during the singing of the National Anthem, in which you aren't required to put your hand over your heart.

Please stop being a tool of Faux News and do some of your own research.

bmah · Jun 08, 2008 6:50 AM

Good rule of thumb is to never trust Fox News. Especially Anne Coulter.

Spyro_Loves_Me · Jun 08, 2008 6:58 AM

Oh, goodness ... Politics ...
First off, thank God she's out ... No one likes her. She lies too much.

About that photo of not putting his hand over his heart ...
I don't care if you're required to or not, but if you're running for President and don't put your hand over your heart, you're just messed up. You're representing the country. It's the least you could do.
Then you have his pastor, Rev. Wright, who has a very nice hate for whites. Obama stayed in his church for over 10 years! Did it really take him that long to leave?
He was also friends with a man who was convicted of 16 counts.
And sorry. I just don't like the fact that he has Muslim upbringings ...

And the thing I absolutely hate the most is his support for homosexuality and the killing of unborn babies.

This is something I could go on and on with.
And no, this is not all from Fox News.

DragonWithinMe · Jun 08, 2008 10:50 AM

Finland is small country, lol... The biggest things on USA comes to even our news. I don't know much about these things, but I joined some sort of Hillary haters club on facebook.
I don't know, but Hillary Clinton is kinda annoying to me. I'm kinda happy she's out. Obama disarming America? That's how it starts... I believe what DragonFireOKN says.

dragon protector x · Jun 08, 2008 2:10 PM

I never trust the news...Heck they cant even predict the Weather any better then a light bulb could...But still im happy Clinton is out because i wont her about her Chewing Obama out, or haveing the fear of all Mature games banned....

Doppelgangergang · Jun 08, 2008 2:21 PM

dragon protector x wrote:

or haveing the fear of all Mature games banned....

Well, why would she do that? I don't play M games yet.... But you never know..

Lancer232 · Jun 08, 2008 2:25 PM

I didn't want Hillary as the president, and I don't want Obama or McCain...I was rooting for John Edwards but then he got kicked out...and I dunno why he's endorsing Obama. Now, I'm hoping for McCain, I don't care if it'll be Bush for 4-8 more years (he's basically another Bush), but I don't trust Obama, too inexperienced and other things...plus, my state doesn't really like him because like my mom said, he's not popular with the working man, and my state is nothing but the working man.

RaidonMakoto · Jun 08, 2008 3:53 PM

Spyro_Loves_Me wrote:

Oh, goodness ... Politics ...
First off, thank God she's out ... No one likes her. She lies too much.
About that photo of not putting his hand over his heart ...
I don't care if you're required to or not, but if you're running for President and don't put your hand over your heart, you're just messed up. You're representing the country. It's the least you could do.

Again, not required. I don't know the circumstances of the picture, but its not required. Just like those silly little flag pins or whatever.

Then you have his pastor, Rev. Wright, who has a very nice hate for whites. Obama stayed in his church for over 10 years! Did it really take him that long to leave?

Yeah, because when your priest says something you don't like, its your responsibility to go up to him, tell him you disagree and then leave. [/sarcasm] His pastor =/= him...

He was also friends with a man who was convicted of 16 counts.

And? A lot of people have friends who have committed crimes.

And sorry. I just don't like the fact that he has Muslim upbringings ...

HE IS NOT A SECRET MUSLIM! Even if he were, there is nothing wrong with the Islamic faith.

And the thing I absolutely hate the most is his support for homosexuality and the killing of unborn babies.

Never mind, you're beyond saving... Gay people are fine as long as they're not f*cking in the streets, and abortion is fine as long as the brain hasn't developed yet. Also, technically, they're not 'babies,' as abortions happen while they're still fetuses. Even then, its a woman's choice what she wants to do to her body.

This is something I could go on and on with.
And no, this is not all from Fox News.

The secret Muslim thing is...

Spyro_Loves_Me · Jun 08, 2008 4:56 PM

RaidonMakoto wrote:

Again, not required. I don't know the circumstances of the picture, but its not required. Just like those silly little flag pins or whatever.

Still, for a president to not do that is just wrong in my opinion. He's being looked upon by the country. Also, here's a statement from the flag code:
"During a rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart." Everyone seems to ignore this nowadays unfortunately.

His pastor =/= him...

Er .. Never seen that sign before so I don't know what it means, heh.

He was also friends with a man who was convicted of 16 counts.

And? It makes him look bad. Sure. It's alright to have someone who's friends with drug dealers and terrorists run our country! Nothing wrong at all! It looks cool! (Not saying he is, just using that as an example.)

HE IS NOT A SECRET MUSLIM! Even if he were, there is nothing wrong with the Islamic faith.

When did I ever say he was a "secret Muslim?" He just has Muslim UPBRINGINGS.

Never mind, you're beyond saving... Gay people are fine as long as they're not f*cking in the streets, and abortion is fine as long as the brain hasn't developed yet. Also, technically, they're not 'babies,' as abortions happen while they're still fetuses. Even then, its a woman's choice what she wants to do to her body.

Wow. Well you just showed how you're beyond saving.
The whole homosexual thing is just me. I don't like it, and I can't change it. That's all. I'm not saying it's right or wrong b/c I can't. I just don't like it. Personal preference.
Then you throw in abortion. Even if it's just a fetus it's still human. What does that fetus develop into? A human being. The same thing you and I are. So yeah, you're practically murdering a child. And that's ok.

But I don't think we should continue the abortion thing. That eventually follows into religion which could cause who knows what ...

Cynder794 · Jun 08, 2008 5:04 PM

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RaidonMakoto · Jun 08, 2008 5:54 PM

Spyro_Loves_Me wrote:

RaidonMakoto wrote:
Again, not required. I don't know the circumstances of the picture, but its not required. Just like those silly little flag pins or whatever.
Still, for a president to not do that is just wrong in my opinion. He's being looked upon by the country. Also, here's a statement from the flag code:
"During a rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart." Everyone seems to ignore this nowadays unfortunately.

As I understand it, that's not required.

His pastor =/= him...
Er .. Never seen that sign before so I don't know what it means, heh.

That means 'does not equal.'

And? It makes him look bad. Sure. It's alright to have someone who's friends with drug dealers and terrorists run our country! Nothing wrong at all! It looks cool! (Not saying he is, just using that as an example.)

Dude, being friends with a drug dealer and a terrorist are two different things. And I'm sure he didn't know of what he was doing until he was caught. What were the 16 counts for anyways, and who was it?

When did I ever say he was a "secret Muslim?" He just has Muslim UPBRINGINGS.

As I understand it, he was not brought up in a Muslim household. Again, there's nothing wrong with Islam.

EDIT: Oops. It appears as if I've made a mistake. Barack Obama was given equal education in both Christian and Islamic faiths as a child.

Wow. Well you just showed how you're beyond saving.

You can't really save someone who's already saved. XD

The whole homosexual thing is just me. I don't like it, and I can't change it. That's all. I'm not saying it's right or wrong b/c I can't. I just don't like it. Personal preference.

That doesn't mean it should be illegal.

Then you throw in abortion. Even if it's just a fetus it's still human. What does that fetus develop into? A human being. The same thing you and I are. So yeah, you're practically murdering a child. And that's ok.

Potential Human Life =/= Actual Human Life. If we're making it illegal to 'kill' potential human life, then, hey, let's make *bleep* and protected sex illegal too.

But I don't think we should continue the abortion thing. That eventually follows into religion which could cause who knows what ...

And? I'll win?

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