what will happen to spyro ater dawn of the dragon ?

ratchet · Nov 15, 2008 7:20 AM

One cannot be sure as whether or not the pre-LOS series of games are gone for sure, but the scenario seems likely. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but it is rather unlikely that the game directors will return to the originals.

Well This topic is merely saying they should, not that they WILL!

However, it would be a very good idea if elements from those original games, or reintroduce some of its characters, and incorporate into the LOS series.

Even if they did, They would defiently change their looks and personality. Not to mention they'll still have the same storyline, mood and gameplay. Just introducing past characters wouldn't make it anymore like the originals. when i played DOTD, i felt no similarities between hunter & hunter.

I'll go into each of ratchet's criticisms about the Spyro series.

If you read my post, you would know that those points were to say how they ccould improve the ORIGINAL series, not TLOS. there are many more things they could do to make TLOS better! But hey, i'll look at them anyway.

Point A: The legend of Spyro series did contain, at least in my mind, a deeper, darker plot in comparison to the previous Spyro games, whose villains I found sadly comical and its storyline, rather shallow. In truth, you can't really go an darker with the plot unless you plan on raise the rating to T, which would be fine with me, but would potentially alienate the younger fans, which I doubt the game designers would even consider.

Agreed, i dont want TLOS to be any darker, that's fine by me. And i'm againt any spyro game going to T, so there i agree too.

Point B: Can you describe to me what you consider the 'Main Spyro feel' to be? The feel of a game is inherently a very vague concept, but if you mean a return to the more comical Spyro games, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you there.

Yes, A game like Spyro was originally, and hence what he should've been like for all of his existence.

Point C: Of course, it would be nice if Copeland could return, but I feel the current music producers are good enough as they are. I do see the need that any future game in the LOS Universe needs a few more comical numbers to lighten the mood from time to time.

Yes, copeland does not suit TLOS. agreed. But that's another point, if Stewart's music doesn't suit a Spyro game, it shouldn't be a spyro game.

Point D: This is again a very vague notion, about a longer game length. To accomplish this you need variety, not merely length.

Yes, like the originals had. And TLOS should have more variety too, for one.

Point E: They shouldn't spend too much time dealing with graphics. The thing is, if the graphics are too complex, that limits the space in which the designers use for the actual gameplay, which I feel is more important. To me, the graphics are suitable for the series.

I was merely saying that if the originals came back, they should obviously boost them appropriate for the generation. but yeah, gameplay always over graphics!

Point F: Yes, I agree with you there. A difficultly setting would be nice.

no argument needed smile

Point G: Everyone wants more levels, and being able to reply the levels would be doubly nice. A very good idea for me would be something similar to what Kingdom Hearts did when you traveled the worlds. First, you got introduced to that world, and while you progressed through the game, new events occurred in that particular world, and the same concept could be applied to any future Spyro games. That would produce longer game time without needing to designs more levels, and gives a reason to return to previous levels.

That would be nice in the original games and TLOS. but i'd like to see more levels anyway.

Point H: I'm not sure that you really need a time trial mode, expect if there are some free-flying levels.

It would be nice in the originals, but a bit hard to execute in TLOS, yeah

Point I: Split screen Co-op would be awesome, especially if combined with a Kingdom Hearts style battle system.

It would be good in TLOS or the originals, yeah

Point J: I'm afraid that multiplayer possibilities would be limited to arena matches, unless you design a Spyro game ala World of Warcraft, but then that would require users to pay a monthy fee to play, which most of the SPyro fans (who are teenage) would not be able to pay. Tell me ratchet, do you have a credit card?

I wasn't refering to an MMORPG, just like a 4 player game or online play (like ratchet and clank)

Point K: Minigames are always nice, the Spyro games could always use some as a diversion.

No debate needed smile

Point L: Abandon the breaths? What are you kidding? Can you imagine a dragon that doesn't use a breath weapon? What I think the designers can do is add other abilities in addition to the breaths; again using a Kingdom HEarts style menu system would make organizing and the use of them more convenient.

This is for the originals, it wouldn't be appropriate in TLOS.

One of my own points: Any future Spryo game should use an RPG-style menu, which details status, armor, abilities, items (though where a dragon would store them seeing they don't have any pockets), and make managing Spyro, Cynder, or any other character who might join them, much easier.

You seem to want a Spyro game to be like Kingdom hearts or a stereotypical medievil combat RPG dragon game. There i have to disagree, Spyro should be exaculy what he was mean to be originally, otherwise it wouldn't be a Spyro game. Sierra should've created a whole new Character

TornWings · Nov 15, 2008 7:49 PM

It's silly to consider them the same character in the first place. They're both purple dragons who battle villains and help friends...and that's where the similarities stop.

Also, sterotypical dragon combat RPG? How many can you think of, off the top of your head? I can count the ones I know of on 1 hand. TLOS Spyro is more of a niche game, I'd say.

Torch, I have to say I disagree with adding KH elements. The fighting in the first one was ok except for the camera spazing trying to follow you in a fight, and from what I played of the second one, it's just "spam square until a reaction command comes up, then spam triangle." You don't even have to move to your enemy as half your (homing) attacks do it for you. You could go thru the menus and use magic or w/e...or you could button mash and still get it done just as quickly/easily. No point having cool alternative ways to defeat enemies if they're too difficult to pull off (in comparison to the basic fighting strategy).

The combo system in DotD could've been done better... has anyone played Spiderman 2? That had a bunch of combos, and most of them were unique enough to have a reason to use them. Something like that might make combat more interesting.

RedDragonX · Nov 15, 2008 10:27 PM

TornWings wrote:

It's silly to consider them the same character in the first place. They're both purple dragons who battle villains and help friends...and that's where the similarities stop.
Also, sterotypical dragon combat RPG? How many can you think of, off the top of your head? I can count the ones I know of on 1 hand. TLOS Spyro is more of a niche game, I'd say.
Torch, I have to say I disagree with adding KH elements. The fighting in the first one was ok except for the camera spazing trying to follow you in a fight, and from what I played of the second one, it's just "spam square until a reaction command comes up, then spam triangle." You don't even have to move to your enemy as half your (homing) attacks do it for you. You could go thru the menus and use magic or w/e...or you could button mash and still get it done just as quickly/easily. No point having cool alternative ways to defeat enemies if they're too difficult to pull off (in comparison to the basic fighting strategy).
The combo system in DotD could've been done better... has anyone played Spiderman 2? That had a bunch of combos, and most of them were unique enough to have a reason to use them. Something like that might make combat more interesting.

I def agree with you on that one. The combo system in the Spiderman games alone was really interesting...lots of sweet ways to kill off your enemies.....and DotD certainly could have done better with that....it wasn't all that terrible....but far from what it coudl have been.

And to the simple combat functions..that's part of the reason why the originals were so popular...it wasn't hard....fire....head butt....and umm....oh yeah that's it.....not that hard to figure out. Once you start adding complex moves and such...you get into combat and are just like....uhhh which combo was which....and which is best to defeat this guy (by which time your knocked on your rear taking heavy damage)...I liked the reaction commands...but they should have taken their time to make things more simple..yet entertaining for the player.

Trasher258 · Nov 16, 2008 3:21 AM

Combat is tricky but having different ways it can effect NPC and interact with other players is ever more hard to craft. Where's the teamwork pay off in solo control? The A.I character control for Spyro/Cynder could of been better put if one distracts the enemy and the other tackles them from midair or even assist when the player is getting beaten the **** out of so badly.

I say "Finish worrying about the vital stuff first BEFORE you set a release date or your not going to make it!"

RedDragonX · Nov 16, 2008 4:39 AM

Yeah I agree with that one. Rushed.....they should have held off a bit longer...I don't like thinking about it...but I don't think the games should have been released just a year apart.....idk....could have been so much better.

Jackson117 · Nov 20, 2008 6:50 AM

i think he and cynder will return to the elders with a bombshell.

Cynder's pregnant and a LOS version of sheila,flame,ember,elora, and zoe will come out of nowhere and the penguin

and ripto will have red with him

ratchet · Nov 20, 2008 6:54 AM

TornWings wrote:

Also, sterotypical dragon combat RPG? How many can you think of, off the top of your head? I can count the ones I know of on 1 hand. TLOS Spyro is more of a niche game, I'd say.

None that i can think of, but i'm sure there are some. But simply put, mostly when dragons are portrayed in books, they always have a combat element to them, and when there is intelligent dragins, it is usually on a quest or something in a medievil time period.

RedDragonX · Nov 20, 2008 10:19 PM

Or you can have a dragon like both in Eragon lol....those are the awesome kind lol...intelligent and deadly both..O.O..

Sora · Nov 20, 2008 11:30 PM

I loathe all of the games past Year of the Dragon(besides DotD, that one was tolerable), so I hope they make their stupid movie and then just leave Spyro alone. I don't want him to sink any lower, he used to be so awesome.... ;-;

Trasher258 · Nov 20, 2008 11:57 PM

Sora wrote:

I loathe all of the games past Year of the Dragon(besides DotD, that one was tolerable), so I hope they make their stupid movie and then just leave Spyro alone. I don't want him to sink any lower, he used to be so awesome.... ;-)

Leave it alone? I wouldn't know about that. At least it's not in the hands of Sierra anymore and is now owned by Activision Blizzard. They are planning to continue with the series but...I don't know what yet for certain.
(Most people on the forum don't seem to know about it yet. Check other resources if you don't believe me.)

RedDragonX · Nov 21, 2008 1:08 AM

Yeah...they are gonna continue with the storyline and such....and the characters...but it will be interesting to see just what they do in the future...but I'm gonna guess they will not continue with anything until after the movie or movies are released.

At least that's what I think...

Cynder's #1 Fan · Nov 22, 2008 4:02 AM

keithnbrit wrote:

I hope to see a continuation of the legend of spyro. I would hate to go back to not flying. I didn't really enjoy the old games nearly as much as i enjoyed the Legend of Spyro. I feel like as i grew up, so did the spryo games. Spyro truly is a game that i love, and i just eat up all of the new features they pack in. Maybe a game featuring just cynder? That would be cool. (:)

I agree 100%. smile Because when I turned twelve Cynder, Spyro, and Sparx were twelve at the same time, so I too felt I grew up as the games did.
I don't have DotD (T_T I don't wanna wait 'til X-mas....) yet, but I can already tell that I'll be addicted once I do get it. I mean playing Cynder and flying!? Too cool!! :DDDDD

RedDragonX · Nov 22, 2008 4:06 AM

Yeah...I'll be honest....you're gonna like it lol...the game is pretty addicting for awhile...but I have played it so many times now that I have to take a break lol....but you will still like it.

I like what the new series did...of course many don't lol...but what the heck I don't care as long as Spyro continues and they make enjoyable games.

Spyro Master · Nov 22, 2008 1:29 PM

yeh DOTD is addictive i reckon that they will use the same spyro in the nxt game but they wont carry on wiv LOS series any more

RedDragonX · Nov 23, 2008 4:16 AM

They already confirmed that they are continuing with the characters and story from the LoS series lol...

ratchet · Nov 23, 2008 10:54 AM

XRedDragonX wrote:

They already confirmed that they are continuing with the characters and story from the LoS series lol...

state your sources

RedDragonX · Nov 23, 2008 4:27 PM

Somebody already stated the source on this topic...at least I think it was this one...look back a couple pages..but I'm pretty sure that somebody already put the link up to it...and if you are so desperate to find out just head over to the Sierra forum and go under the questionare with Chris Williams..where he confirms it.

Picklejerky · Nov 23, 2008 8:30 PM

They should mix both games. Still keep serious strylines and abilities, yet still be fun, and go through portals, and all that stuff. And be able to fly! That way, it'd make classic fans, and TLOS fans happy.

RedDragonX · Nov 23, 2008 8:53 PM

It would be pretty hard for them to accomplish that..but yeah it would be awesome so that both fans of the series can get along. Pretty sick of this debate back and forth.

Spyro Master · Nov 23, 2008 9:29 PM

oh ok kl i didnt know that they were carrying on wiv it thx

RedDragonX · Nov 23, 2008 9:44 PM

Carrying on with what? The LoS series?...I don't know if they will continue on with it under that title...but they did want to use the same characters and the same story.

TornWings · Nov 24, 2008 2:25 AM

Well, if they don't use the TLOS title, that means they'll have to come up with a new one...

I don't like the sound of that. (anticipates next game will contain some dragon pun like "Wings of...", or something)

Sometimes it sounds good, other times...not at all.

RedDragonX · Nov 24, 2008 3:26 AM

Lol...well we wont really know for sometime now will we...we will just have to wait and see where the developers want to go....but I don't know about having a game based on their kid...you can't have a Spyro game where you don't play Spyro lol...

Cynder's Friend · Nov 24, 2008 1:32 PM

At the Hospital LYying on a bed is me when u said thet he said clear shocked me and now im allllllliiiiiivvvvveeee

lol but thats cool long as they keep tha characters

Spyro Master · Nov 24, 2008 6:25 PM

no wot i meant was carryin on wiv the LOS spyro characters not games under the same name soz i didnt make it clear

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