Oh man rap music

bmah · Jun 20, 2008 8:29 PM

OK, I really dislike rap, but there are some things you guys are missing:
- It IS music. Less melodically perhaps, but there's rhythm for the most part. People often get the misconception that music without melody or much musical instruments cannot be considered a song, which is false. You guys really need to "listen" to John Cage's music (i.e. NO instruments or vocals so you basically hear nothing, but it's still considered music).
- I'm not a spokesperson for rap music, but people like rap music (hip hop more generally) because of the lyrics that are conveyed throughout the song, and how those lyrics are conveyed (e.g. by an addicting rhythm). It might be a story, a polical statement, or something just plain silly (and often crude).

edit: listen to John Cage's song called 4'33". I don't need to give you the mp3 for it because you are essentially listening to it.

Antr the Rolf · Jun 20, 2008 9:08 PM

As I said the old school rap is the best..its what people they put in it...Ad I support it since its expressing yourself..only if its good though.I mean come on!Who makes a rap called Throw some D's...I bet that's why my whole class fails(not me)I am the smartest one!

Spyro_Loves_Me · Jun 21, 2008 7:19 AM

bmah wrote:

edit: listen to John Cage's song called 4'33". I don't need to give you the mp3 for it because you are essentially listening to it.

Ah, the famous song of silence. I remember learning about that song in music theory.
Makes me think of the movie August Rush ...

corky · Jun 21, 2008 10:20 AM

The only real songs i like on rap is "lose yourself" and...argh i cant think of the name..

ratchet · Jun 21, 2008 10:39 AM

Some rap i like, but most artists have just totally Killed rap. One of the earliest forms was Willy Nelson in my opinion, and i like some of his songs....
But The Modern rap is just ew..... I hate having to listen to it on the bus or bus stop or school....

CynderRules · Jun 21, 2008 2:07 PM

one of my favorite rap-type songs is Linkin Park's "Hands Held High" It has a really strong message about how the world works today. And I don't mind a little bit of swearing in a song, but when a song is nothing but cursing, that's just ridiculous.

My history teacher said that the first rap was I guy with one of those giant stereo's on his shoulder saying "Fab 5 freddy from outer space" over and over again.

Lancer232 · Jun 21, 2008 2:43 PM

Rap as a genre I don't mind, but the new "Gansta" rap is the kind I don't like. Last year, my school did this Christmas play and they had a rapping part for the African Christmas part (or whatever it is called, I forgot)...I liked it cause I knew it wasn't about something bad. And I think Hip Hop and Rap are the same thing according to Midnight Club 3 because it lets you select the genre you want to hear from Rock, Hip Hop, Techno, Rythem and Beat, and something else...but that's my opinion that they're the same thing.

Kamineko · Jun 21, 2008 6:51 PM

ratchet wrote:

One of the earliest forms was Willy Nelson in my opinion, and i like some of his songs....

...did you just call willy nelson rap?

he... he's not even close. he hasn't even had an influence on rap. what.

Aicebo · Jun 21, 2008 7:05 PM

dragon protector x wrote:

*Grinds teeth*....Trying to ryme to the same beat like trying to ryme to techno...Also it always seems to full of bad language...

So DPX, if techno/electronic is the same as rap, then is this rap?
No, it's not.
I really dislike it when people think that techno/electronica is the same as rap. Because it's not.

CynderRules · Jun 21, 2008 9:27 PM

techno is nowhere NEAR rap.

bmah · Jun 22, 2008 3:35 AM

Aicebo wrote:

I really dislike it when people think that techno/electronica is the same as rap. Because it's not.

There could be a melding of two or more genres. Rap with techno flavor, ya know?

Cyndersparx · Jun 22, 2008 3:49 AM

LINKIN PARK RULES!!!!!!!!!

CynderRules · Jun 22, 2008 10:49 AM

Why did you post that?

Anyways, I like just about any music as long as I can relate to it. XD

icydragon · Jun 23, 2008 11:45 AM

Atresac wrote:

Oh wow
pretty much all complaints are the same ignorant generalizations.
Or just dumb stuff. Like this
icydragon wrote:
I hate rap cause it's immoral.

Thanks for using me as an example,I forgot if you grow up around good music,and a "cool" music comes out,you are expected to love the new music and if you don't you are rejected for life because of something so stupide.

Taco Godess · Jun 23, 2008 5:05 PM

Meh.. rap's okay but... I only like rap if it's by the Gorillaz.

bmah · Jun 23, 2008 5:15 PM

icydragon wrote:

Atresac wrote:
Oh wow
pretty much all complaints are the same ignorant generalizations.
Or just dumb stuff. Like this
icydragon wrote:
I hate rap cause it's immoral.
Thanks for using me as an example,I forgot if you grow up around good music,and a "cool" music comes out,you are expected to love the new music and if you don't you are rejected for life because of something so stupide.

No, Atresac is just pointing out the stereotypical generalization that you made about rap music. I'm sure there are plenty of songs with very good lyrics; rap has just gotten a bad "rap" (haha) from songs that have a ton of profanity.

dragon protector x · Jun 23, 2008 7:57 PM

I will admit there are like 2 rap songs i can stand. Yeah by Usher....and Nelly on the credits of Scary Movie 2.

Kamineko · Jul 15, 2008 11:02 AM

Lancer232 wrote:

Last year, my school did this Christmas play and they had a rapping part for the African Christmas part (or whatever it is called, I forgot)...I liked it cause I knew it wasn't about something bad.

I've just got to say that this sentence made me lol because of how blatantly racist your school's play apparently was. lmfao

BlueSpirit94 · Jul 15, 2008 1:07 PM

1. You cant understand a word they are saying
2. the stuff you can understand makes no sense
3. all they talk about is shooting someone up and smoking weed

POINT MADE!

xXxSpyro__CynderxXx · Jul 15, 2008 8:08 PM

icydragon wrote:
I hate rap cause it's immoral.

I agree, rap music IS probably one of the most immoral styles of music entertainment. if you would call it a style.

Kamineko · Jul 15, 2008 9:58 PM

BlueSpirit94 wrote:

1. You cant understand a word they are saying
2. the stuff you can understand makes no sense
3. all they talk about is shooting someone up and smoking weed
POINT MADE!

1) Are you kidding? They're speaking in pretty much a normal voice without any distortion to their voices. It's actually easier to understand than most rock music you hear on the radio these days.
2) Are you sure it's that or do you just like to take lyrics at face value?
3) Holy stereotypes batman!

xXxSpyro__CynderxXx wrote:

icydragon wrote:
I hate rap cause it's immoral.
I agree, rap music IS probably one of the most immoral styles of music entertainment. if you would call it a style.

A genre can't be immoral. It's not like a musical genre is sacrificing babies or eating goats.

And it is a style, are you dense?

DarkMaster · Jul 15, 2008 10:13 PM

I Dislike Rap, its not a type of music all they do is just swear and swear, mostly all you can here is Swear, Swear and Swear, not my kind of music, rap....is not a type of music

Aicebo · Jul 15, 2008 10:34 PM

Um, Atresac, you can't force people to like it because you have a different opinion than others. T__T

Kamineko · Jul 15, 2008 10:42 PM

I'm not trying to get them to like it. Honestly I don't care if people "like" it.

It's just the sheer ignorance that pretty much everyone on the forum displays. "It's not a real style of music," or "all they do is just swear the whole time and talk about drugs and guns". It's like "wow are you that much of an ingrate?"

ie:

DarkMaster wrote:

rap....is not a type of music

It is a type of music in the strictest sense of the term, how people can actually say this and believe what they're saying is beyond me.

SpyroFanatic · Jul 16, 2008 1:08 AM

I hated it but I like it again tongue

I like

Nuck it if you buck it freestyle (made by me brother)

&

A mille remix

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