13 Reasons Why The Originals are favoured by me

RaidonMakoto · Mar 24, 2008 4:48 AM

Oh for the love of... RaidonMakoto a game cannot fail in absolution! There will always be people who hate a game, and always people who love it. It would only completely fail if EVERY person who played it hated it. Don't bother using absolutes, because they're rarely true. (I didn't say never, because that, in itself, is an absolute). I suggest you get wise to what words mean in real life, or you will quickly find yourself looking like an idiot.

You look like an idiot now, because fail means a different thing on the Internet than it does in real life...

ratchet · Mar 24, 2008 4:50 AM

Disclaimer: The "despute" between Raidon and Blaze has nothing to do with the contents of this topic, the topic should not be closed by this or any other arguments

Trasher258 · Dec 02, 2008 10:35 PM

ratchet wrote:

2. Variety in gameplay- In TLOS, there are a few alternations, but it is mainly fight, bit of platforming, more fighting. Sure the fighting has different styles, bust most of them are quite boring like the strafing fireballs.

The more things you can do the more fun, challenging, and enjoyable it can be. The thing to watch out for is to not have a very detailed feature like the combat be used too much or it becomes quickly noticeable and the effect of it wears off.

ratchet wrote:

3. Bosses- I found the Bosses in the original games alot more fun than in TLOS, mostly because you have to use your mind to defeat them, and just not dodge this and repeatably press this button.

That is mostly true but they also share the same flaws as well such as not switching tactics on the player if the A.I. can notice it's not working effectively. There's nothing wrong with these bosses but I wish they were much more intelligent than just using brute force and being heavily armored.

ratchet wrote:

4. Graphic Design- TLOS is alot more detailed than the originals, obviously because of the Graphical capabilities, but the creativeness of backgrounds, levels, enemies and characters i found awesome in the originals.

It's true that the graphics were much more detailed but Krome wasn't careful about the light exposure that can make it difficult to see sometimes.

ratchet wrote:

7. Portals, Sparx, The "Health Bar"- Sparx the health bar was a very unique feature and some argue that he is unneeded these days, but i think he was great, and alot more believable actually, even though he was a dragonfly who takes hits.

I thought of Sparks being more of a shield than a health bar. It would be nice if he acted like one while you had an individual health bar of your own. Who knows, the "Shield" could save your hide when your in a tight spot.

ratchet wrote:

9. Flame- I hated how its limited in TLOS, even if it was needed, Spyro should have unlimited flame.

I can't say no to that. The standard breath attack should be unlimited while optional ones are limited or recharge over time.

ratchet wrote:

12.Replay- well after you beat the boring games of ANB or TEN, what can you do? Hmm...nothing worth while.

There was not much to earn after beating the originals either besides getting skill points, collecting stuff, improve your speedway records... I was looking for having some secret levels or something like that unlocked. That's just my opinion. Oh yeah, when will the supercharge tracks be put to good use some? I have seen little use of them besides getting to other places and chasing some random "blue boy" around a small mountain.

Ok, you caught me. (:) I admit I made some corrections in the quotes.

Stormy · Dec 02, 2008 10:44 PM

Trasher258 wrote:

There was not much to earn after beating the originals either besides getting skill points, collecting stuff, improve your speedway records... I was looking for having some secret levels or something like that unlocked.

Well, at least that's something. I found that stuff fun to do, especially the skateboard scores. And don't forget, Spyro 3 has that Super Bonus World, which I found awesome.

ANB has nothing to go back and do, and TEN... I guess you could try to collect all the relics and quills, but too bad for you if you miss one since the game is so linear. >__>

RaidonMakoto · Dec 03, 2008 12:29 AM

Epic revival, amirite?

Is there a rule against thread necromancy here? I'm not sure. XD

Stormy · Dec 03, 2008 1:36 AM

Personally, I don't think it really matters; as long as you have something worthwhile to add to a thread, what difference does it make how old it is? But you'll have to ask SR for the official policy on that, I guess. When I wrote the rules, SR didn't add anything about bumping old threads, so....

ratchet · Dec 03, 2008 9:40 AM

Some of these points are kida outdated...but they still stand

dragon protector x · Dec 04, 2008 1:46 AM

-_- Dont mean to sound mean... but how many threads have you made about your thoughts on the originals? Just wondering...

Stormy · Dec 04, 2008 2:06 AM

This is kind of an old one that got bumped.

T3h0v4llu · Dec 04, 2008 6:37 PM

It is so bizarre that when you state your opinions (like ratchet did in a VERY correct way), you only get flame posts from very certain persons. Also, a great example, i said that i dont like posters and i got hate PMs from someone anonymous (im not referring to someone called Volteer32). Ratchet, as before, i greatly agree with you. Tlos wasnt a completely horrible series, but it wasnt anything compared to the originals.

Anyone who disagrees with that, has a stroke.

ratchet · Dec 05, 2008 7:05 AM

dragon protector x wrote:

-_- Dont mean to sound mean... but how many threads have you made about your thoughts on the originals? Just wondering...

For a start, this is really old, secondly i've made about 1 or 2

Spash the Bandragon · Dec 06, 2008 12:32 AM

I think both Spyros have good and bad qualities about them (altough I admit the first two LoS have considerably more flaws than the others). Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness), and I currently stopped playing DotD (playing it depresses me). I think I actually like Crash: Mind Over Mutant better. It's FUNABLE.

ratchet · Dec 06, 2008 1:59 AM

Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness),

Can i just ask, With all the Minigames, different playable characters and different types of gameplay & levels, how does it feel repetative?

Juice box · Dec 06, 2008 8:32 AM

Honestly, I just really like the originals because they played an important role in my childhood. I honestly don't care about the new spyro games anymore. I don't want the originals to come back (even though they own all over the newer games) because it would just feel weird.

Stormy · Dec 06, 2008 2:47 PM

ratchet wrote:

Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness),
Can i just ask, With all the Minigames, different playable characters and different types of gameplay & levels, how does it feel repetative?

That's what I was wondering. I never get bored with those games because the gameplay is so varied.

TLoS, though, is the very definition of repetitive gameplay.

Trasher258 · Dec 07, 2008 4:03 AM

The originals are fun but they are not meant to be played over and over since you'll notice the A.I and challenges will just play out mostly the same way. Of course, if you end up doing something like say no to everybody just to hear them whine then that's something fun to do. (Moneybags: What are you saving all that money for? A sequel?) For example, I noticed that if an enemy is offscreen (facing away from them) then they won't attack you. They will stop in mid-charge and go back the way they came. Some of them don't do that but most of them do. WTH is that all about? I can just use that to my advantage by pulling a fake and then snap back around and sizzle his back.

Juice box wrote:

Honestly, I just really like the originals because they played an important role in my childhood. I honestly don't care about the new spyro games anymore. I don't want the originals to come back (even though they own all over the newer games) because it would just feel weird.

Why is that? If you mean the timeline and such just to snap back like that then yes that would be weird. You think you know everything up to date about the world around you and all of a sudden you're in the past thinking "What is going on? How did this help shape the future events? Where are the world that I knew?" It's like Star Wars when it first released episodes IV-VI and then I-III came out after it.

Here's a thought: What if the A.I can counter your attacks if they seen you use them more than once? Your opponent and nearby enemies would be aware of your abilities and attempt to counter it. If you can counter theirs then why not the A.I? It's a good way to make the player to use all their resources to keep the enemy guessing.

Cokuruscana · Dec 11, 2008 5:52 PM

I guess I'll put my two cents in. ^^

I agree with Ratchet, yes, the original series was awesome. In fact, I'm getting a lot of them for Christmas. Those games are what led me on to TLoS games in the first place. All 13 of his reasons I can relate to.

HOWEVER, I do like the new ones as well. Not because it has, necessarily a better storyline (The Orginals had more simplistic, but extremely unique and well-thought-of storylines as well.) but becasue you get to see a new take on the original. Yes, the new ones DO have their flaws, my main reason being it is hella short. x.x I loved how the orginals were legnthy, but kept you enertained. But, it does offer new mechanics and characters that were, more-or-less, unlike the ones from the orginals.

All in all, I do prefer the older ones, simply because I have grown up with them and because they were truly what made Spyro a gaming-all star. It was unique, bright, funny, and all-around fun.

I am not saying I hate the newer ones, either. I actually like the new ones. I admit, it took me a while to get accustomed to it, but I do like the characters, graphics, new breathes, and the overall storyline. (I do not fault the originals for graphics, since they were just older)

In conclusion, I like the originals more. BUT the newer ones come in a near second.

T3h0v4llu · Dec 11, 2008 6:49 PM

ratchet wrote:

Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness),
Can i just ask, With all the Minigames, different playable characters and different types of gameplay & levels, how does it feel repetative?

I got tired of the minigames long ago. In fact, YotD has so many minigames that i hate (some of) them.

Now, what i think of the games, extended version:

I think that the story itself is very poor quality in tlos, but its presented a far better way than in the originals. ANB had most dialogue (i dont like that characters like Cyril and Volteer dont have many lines in TEN and DotD, as i have heard),what is a good point but it sucked in all other terms.

TEN was improved, well.. was attempted to improve gameplay wise (more platforming, elemental attacks improved, added collectables..), but it wasnt much better than ANB after all. As i said, i got only the slightest feeling of pleasure when i owned armies of enemies. Still so easy.

I believe that DotD was enchanced further, but it is still very much like its pre-versions. The last part of the trilogy, technically, should be richest in features, and indubitably the best. Ill make a topic when i get my hands on a mod-circuit for a wii so i can play the wared game, which i already have on a disc so you can do nothing about it.

(The last sentence was for the Tlos Police Squad (TPS) if they're trying to spam me with "DONT DOWNLOAD IT!!!! ITS A GREAT GAME AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS A CRIME!!")

ratchet · Dec 12, 2008 10:54 AM

T3h0v4llu wrote:

ratchet wrote:
Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness),
Can i just ask, With all the Minigames, different playable characters and different types of gameplay & levels, how does it feel repetative?
I got tired of the minigames long ago. In fact, YotD has so many minigames that i hate (some of) them.

EVERY game gets old after a while.

Juice box · Dec 23, 2008 6:33 AM

Sometimes I get sick of old Spyro (repetitiveness),

As if TLOS isn't repetitive. The fighting gets very boring after a while.

Spyro Master · Dec 23, 2008 8:43 AM

the fighting is repetitive bt its less so in DOTD to me becasue u can pull off different combos and nt mostly the same ones

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