Nintendo Slashes 3DS Price to $169.99, Early Adopters Get Free Games

Mr. John · Jul 30, 2011 4:22 PM

Well have fun with it everyone!

Latias fan · Jul 30, 2011 4:27 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Just got a 3DS and OOT.
The clerk at Best Buy said I will be able to get the money back once the price drops. So I guess I get free games and the price drop while I'm at it :*bleep*in:
Also, I saw Golden Sun as a DS game. You should DEFINITELY look into that. It was one of my all-time favorites!

I need to learn how to barter like you

Swaffy · Jul 31, 2011 3:16 AM

Latias fan wrote:

I need to learn how to barter like you

Yeah, seriously. I don't get how he does it. All I know is that it can save me
hundreds of dollars. I can only imagine ... in the future when Battlefield 4 is
being made, I could get it for $20 or $30.

Neotyguy40 · Jul 31, 2011 5:19 PM

riverhippo wrote:

Would you consider the 3D technology on the 3DS a novelty, or something that really seperates it from the 'others'

Depends on what you're using it for.

The 3D cameras on the back are completely useless. Videos and pictures come out blurry, and they are all around just poor quality. The AR games are fun too, but they don't beat a full game. The 3DS also comes with a game called Face Raiders, but I want to uninstall it (not sure if that is possible though). It is a horrible game with ear-cringing noises.

However, the 3D screen is awesome when playing games (sort of the point of it anyways XD). In this aspect, the 3D is much more than just a novelty. I much prefer to play OoT in 3D rather than 2D. I actually now notice it more if the 3D is off than on. It does get annoying when something pops right up near the camera in game, because then your eyes automatically focus in on that and everything else goes blurry, but that only seems to happen when there are many particles on the screen.

However, the 3D is only a small part.

The graphics are a lot better than the first DS. This new one is probably a little bit more powerful than the previous PSP, and considering much of that power is going to 2 screens (3 if you count the 3d as 2 separate views), then it is pretty easy to tell how nice it is.

The controls are also a lot better. The new analog pad feels better than the PSP ones ever did, and while the Start, Home, and Select buttons are in in a much better position, the power button seems inconvenient. However, they make this up by giving you a confirmation screen when you click it. I've never accidentally pressed it yet, but I feel like at any time that could happen.

There is also a gyroscope that works really well in OoT. Aiming feels so much more accurate than the N64 version, even when in a shaking car. It's been integrated nicely. The stylus is very nice too. It isn't a piece of plastic. The tip is a rubberized plastic, and the top is some sort of hardened plastic, but the rest is completely metal. It is actually telescopic, so I can comfortably make it anywhere between 3-5 inches long.

There are also a lot of nice conveniences. When you play a game you can suspend it by clicking the home button. Then you can go into a web browser, talk to friends (I have none yet...), and there is even an entire application dedicated to making notes for whichever game is suspended. It is pretty nice to be able to do that. I wouldn't use it as a main web browser source, or use it to talk to friends, but I find the note taker useful.

Would I say it's worth $250? Most likely not. However, I feel it should hold the same value as a PS3 or Xbox (both of which I feel are overpriced). I haven't really played with it for more than 2 days though, so I am certain many other things will be available that will make it's value raised. I would say this is probably worth $175 on average. Anything over $200 is overpriced, and anything under $150 is a bargain.

Latias fan wrote:

I need to learn how to barter like you

Not really bartering. More like looking at weaknesses in a company's customer support area. Last week I tricked EA's Customer Support into giving me Battlefield 2142 for free.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 05, 2011 2:03 PM

I hear Wal-mart is dropping the price early on the 9th. So if anyone wants to buy it from Walmart that day, go ahead and get the best of both worlds.

yearofthe · Aug 07, 2011 2:55 AM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

Does anyone know of a store that has a price match guarantee for a certain amount of days?
Like they pay you the difference if you buy a few days before the price drops? I know some stores do this, but I'm trying to figure out which ones...
EDIT: Got it!
Best Buy allows any price changes by other companies to be partially refunded within 30 days. Therefore, I can buy the 3DS on August 10th, then on the 12th I can go to their Customer Service desk and ask for the difference. Bam! I will get the 20 free games, AND the price decrease!
Silly Nintendo... Announcing their price drops so early...

I just got my black 3DS today just because of this.

And to all, the 3DS is not FAILING. Nintendo is just realizing $250 is too much and $169 is the price that should've been all along. The 3DS sold 4.3 million units btw.

To Neotyguy40: I asked a person at Best Buy, you get a FULL difference back. When your at Best Buy, tell them to check other stores (Walmart, Sams, Bestbuy.. Note: they don't count GameStop or small trading games stores) to get the best difference at Best Buy. I get my $70 back, 20 free games, and more points on my Reward Zone card. smile

On a side note, Walmart is dropping the price of the 3DS to $169 early, August 9th, so you can go either way if you want.

riverhippo · Aug 07, 2011 11:08 AM

Ok, guys, this got me excited a little. I was like "20 FREE GAMES!?"

So I did a little research. The 20 free games are all downloaded games, not ones you buy in the store. They are available for download from the Nintendo eShop for free to the 'early buyers' that it applies towards.

Not only are they 'just downloadable' games, but they, like all of Nintendo's best games, are just recycled NES and GBA games formatted for the 3DS. And the irony in even that last sentence, is that everyone knows the GBA is recycled SNES. Unless they added a 3D element to these old school video games, these are the same games you can emulate onto your computer for about the cost of 20 seconds downloading time. Or, if that 'bothers' you, you can be like me, and pull that dusty ol' console out that still works and replay the games there.

Oh, and did I mention that you wont be able to download the first one until September 1st?

I found this information at several websites, the best of which was this one:

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/nintendo3ds/news/

Now for my opinion. I'm not buying it. To think that Nintendo will eventually 'charge' 3DS owners to purchase these games later on is a crime in itself. They aren't doing anybody favors by giving these downloads for free. Essentially, they are pooping out the same crap to us over and over. I do not know why people fall for it. Every handheld generation's game options from Nintendo has just been regurgitated console games of yesteryear. And don't give me the "but they're good games," crap. No game is so good that you have to have multiple copies of it, unless you're collecting it. And if you are collecting them, then have fun with the "4DS" when it comes out in 5 years and runs all of your favorite Wii games you already own now.

I'll be honest, I really thought the 3DS was impressive-looking. But now that I've read up on it, and investigated this price change, I'm convinced it is just like every other handheld post-gameboy Nintendo has ever come out with. Reruns.

JazzJackrabbit · Aug 07, 2011 2:35 PM

I want to get it mainly for Skylanders.

Latias fan · Aug 07, 2011 3:33 PM

I love how Sony when they get hacked. They only gave us five games, Two of which you can only keep. And Nintendo never got hacked, But that give out 20 games you can keep.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 07, 2011 5:46 PM

riverhippo wrote:

Ok, guys, this got me excited a little. I was like "20 FREE GAMES!?"
So I did a little research. The 20 free games are all downloaded games, not ones you buy in the store. They are available for download from the Nintendo eShop for free to the 'early buyers' that it applies towards.

Yea, the article linked says they are downloadable games. Even says what half those games are. No extra research needed.

riverhippo wrote:

Not only are they 'just downloadable' games, but they, like all of Nintendo's best games, are just recycled NES and GBA games formatted for the 3DS. And the irony in even that last sentence, is that everyone knows the GBA is recycled SNES. Unless they added a 3D element to these old school video games, these are the same games you can emulate onto your computer for about the cost of 20 seconds downloading time. Or, if that 'bothers' you, you can be like me, and pull that dusty ol' console out that still works and replay the games there.

Again, they said right in the announcement that they were old games. Considering I was born only a few months before the N64 and PS1 were released, I don't really have an NES or SNES. I do have a Gameboy color, but again there are many benefits. They're cheaper, downloadable, and much more portable (I'm not going to carry my old N64 with a screen and controller).

riverhippo wrote:

Oh, and did I mention that you wont be able to download the first one until September 1st?
I found this information at several websites, the best of which was this one:
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/nintendo3ds/news/

Again, the OP linked to a website with the exact same information. I know I won't get the first 10 until September 1st, and I won't get the second set until November.

riverhippo wrote:

Now for my opinion. I'm not buying it. To think that Nintendo will eventually 'charge' 3DS owners to purchase these games later on is a crime in itself. They aren't doing anybody favors by giving these downloads for free.

They're doing me a favor. Along with everyone else who purchased it.

riverhippo wrote:

Essentially, they are pooping out the same crap to us over and over. I do not know why people fall for it.

Falling for what? You aren't the only one that notices. Even those of us that do notice enjoy it.

riverhippo wrote:

Every handheld generation's game options from Nintendo has just been regurgitated console games of yesteryear. And don't give me the "but they're good games," crap. No game is so good that you have to have multiple copies of it, unless you're collecting it.

Those games they are giving for free? I don't have them. I'm not getting multiple copies, I am getting my first copy of it.

riverhippo wrote:

And if you are collecting them, then have fun with the "4DS" when it comes out in 5 years and runs all of your favorite Wii games you already own now.

I'll buy it if they plan on bringing out SSBB, Mario Galaxy, and Metroid Prime.

riverhippo wrote:

I'll be honest, I really thought the 3DS was impressive-looking. But now that I've read up on it, and investigated this price change, I'm convinced it is just like every other handheld post-gameboy Nintendo has ever come out with. Reruns.

Good non reruns post-gameboy:

-Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal + Saphire/Ruby/Emerald + Diamond/Pearl/Platinum + Black/White
-Kirby Amazing Mirror, Squeak Squad, Canvas Curse, Nightmare in Dreamland
-Zelda Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass
-Nintendogs
-Wario Ware Games

And those are just the first party games I own. There are plenty of others I don't own, and many 3rd party games too. I don't think it is fair to say everything is "reruns". They announced 2 remakes of N64 games for the 3DS, and they opened up a virtual console (just like the Wii). Other people like these remakes, and that's what Nintendo is giving them. In fact, people want MOAR!

Nintendo isn't the only one doing this. Remember how the PSP has all those reruns too? Such as Spyro?

Latias fan wrote:

I love how Sony when they get hacked. They only gave us five games, Two of which you can only keep. And Nintendo never got hacked, But that give out 20 games you can keep.

Actually, it's 2 PSP and 2 PS3 games (4 in total)

Sony: "Yea, not only were you not able to connect to PSN. All your information is available on the web... We know you all probably don't trust us anymore, but here's 4 free games. You have a couple of days to get them."

Nintendo: "Sorry about not selling more than a few million systems. We're going to reduce the price of the system by about $80 and give everyone who owns it 20 free games. By the way, our CEO and other high officials are taking a pay cut to afford all of this. Again, we're sorry for the inconvenience."

bmah · Aug 08, 2011 2:25 AM

What no one has mentioned yet is that some of the games will not be available to normal consumers, and will only be downloadable for Nintendo ambassadors.

yearofthe · Aug 08, 2011 6:20 AM

bmah wrote:

What no one has mentioned yet is that some of the games will not be available to normal consumers, and will only be downloadable for Nintendo ambassadors.

From the Nintendo 3DS eShop I state the first quote from this article on the "News" section:

"You are a Nintendo 3DS Ambassador!"

Neotyguy40 · Aug 08, 2011 12:01 PM

bmah wrote:

What no one has mentioned yet is that some of the games will not be available to normal consumers, and will only be downloadable for Nintendo ambassadors.

They can't keep 10 of the biggest selling GBA games out from the public forever. I bet they'll slowly release them. They just said they don't have any plans for releasing them to the public, so they are prepared to go back on that when the time comes.

Don't hold that against me though. It's just stupid that someone would port such majorly important titles for only a select few people.

riverhippo · Aug 08, 2011 1:57 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

bmah wrote:
What no one has mentioned yet is that some of the games will not be available to normal consumers, and will only be downloadable for Nintendo ambassadors.
They can't keep 10 of the biggest selling GBA games out from the public forever. I bet they'll slowly release them. They just said they don't have any plans for releasing them to the public, so they are prepared to go back on that when the time comes.
Don't hold that against me though. It's just stupid that someone would port such majorly important titles for only a select few people.

They're available to me now, and I don't even own a GBA or 3DS. wink

Neotyguy40 · Aug 14, 2011 7:08 PM

riverhippo wrote:

Neotyguy40 wrote:
bmah wrote:
What no one has mentioned yet is that some of the games will not be available to normal consumers, and will only be downloadable for Nintendo ambassadors.
They can't keep 10 of the biggest selling GBA games out from the public forever. I bet they'll slowly release them. They just said they don't have any plans for releasing them to the public, so they are prepared to go back on that when the time comes.
Don't hold that against me though. It's just stupid that someone would port such majorly important titles for only a select few people.
They're available to me now, and I don't even own a GBA or 3DS.

Too bad you don't have multiplayer. Or portability. Or stability. Or good controls. Or updated support. Or accuracy. There's a reason why emulators exist, but there's also a reason why they re-release things.

To anyone wondering, I got $80 in a price difference today, so if anyone was skeptical if it would work, I'm glad to say it did.

riverhippo · Aug 14, 2011 11:52 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

riverhippo wrote:
Neotyguy40 wrote:
They can't keep 10 of the biggest selling GBA games out from the public forever. I bet they'll slowly release them. They just said they don't have any plans for releasing them to the public, so they are prepared to go back on that when the time comes.
Don't hold that against me though. It's just stupid that someone would port such majorly important titles for only a select few people.
They're available to me now, and I don't even own a GBA or 3DS.
Too bad you don't have multiplayer.

But I do. Emulators have been doing multiplayer mods for the popular games. There isn't much activity though, but I blame that on the games themselves.

Or portability.

It's on my laptop and I take it to work everyday. And it's on a hard drive that is going on 8 years.

Or stability.

Again the laptops. And I've heard theres several software and hardware issues with the 3DS, as with any new console of handheld release. I blame this mostly on the user themselves, but still

Or good controls.

Bought a logitech USB controller for $20. It has the standard SNES style buttons, but also includes shoulder buttons for PSX games. And I can program any button to do anything and am not limited to the handfull of configuration options some games have.

Or updated support.

Who the hell needs updated support for an old video game? And even if you did, bugs and hacks are in the very nature of emulating.

Or accuracy.

Are you referring to the general control of the game? This was a general concern of mine when I bought a controller, but the sensitivity of the buttons and the way the game runs is almost exactly the way I remember playing them on the original consoles. My only complaint was a bit of lag during a DS emulation which can be solved with a simply video card upgrade. I was still able to play it through without too much problems. And I've never had any problems with the interface from the emulators I use.

There's a reason why emulators exist, but there's also a reason why they re-release things.

The same reason people blame Activision for their Skylanders toy 'gimick': To make revenue.

Stormy · Aug 15, 2011 1:17 AM

Yeah, and they make revenue because people buy them because they like to see updated versions of old games they enjoyed. I don't see the problem with this.

Latias fan · Aug 15, 2011 1:21 AM

Me neither. I use Emulaters all the time. But i would still buy a new version of the game to see if it holds up to the original.

riverhippo · Aug 15, 2011 3:12 AM

Latias fan wrote:

Me neither. I use Emulaters all the time. But i would still buy a new version of the game to see if it holds up to the original.

This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.

I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.

And if you are collecting them, how do you collect downloads?

Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.

Neotyguy40 · Aug 15, 2011 3:13 AM

riverhippo wrote:

But I do. Emulators have been doing multiplayer mods for the popular games. There isn't much activity though, but I blame that on the games themselves.

Each game uses a different protocol that emulators have a hard time actually mimicking. Emulators can't replicate it, and since each emulator has a completely different userbase, there is not much unity going on.

riverhippo wrote:

It's on my laptop and I take it to work everyday. And it's on a hard drive that is going on 8 years.

I can fit an 8" screen, my N64, and a controller into a small bag. However, I don't think that's very 'portable'. A laptop, controller, and a hard drive does not sound very portable. In fact, I think a 3DS is smaller than the hard drive or controller themselves.

riverhippo wrote:

Again the laptops. And I've heard theres several software and hardware issues with the 3DS, as with any new console of handheld release. I blame this mostly on the user themselves, but still

What do you mean 'Again the laptops'. That isn't stable at all. And where did you hear that there are any software or hardware issues on the 3DS? The only non-defective error I've ever even heard of was a crash in Splinter Cell that requires the software to be updated. No other games were effected, and not even Splinter Cell has that anymore. Emulators, on the other hand, are prone to having graphical errors, sounds errors, lag, or outright crashing.

riverhippo wrote:

Bought a logitech USB controller for $20. It has the standard SNES style buttons, but also includes shoulder buttons for PSX games. And I can program any button to do anything and am not limited to the handfull of configuration options some games have.

Doesn't sound very 'free'. I would argue your laptop would be the same thing, but we can ignore that part for sake of argument. I could have bought 10 virtual console games in place of that $20 controller. And if you bought the 'Dual-action' model, then that is even worse.

riverhippo wrote:

Who the hell needs updated support for an old video game? And even if you did, bugs and hacks are in the very nature of emulating.

Was talking about the console itself. I'd much rather have first-party support at the ready than 3rd-party support that won't have another update for months (possibly years or never).

riverhippo wrote:

Are you referring to the general control of the game? This was a general concern of mine when I bought a controller, but the sensitivity of the buttons and the way the game runs is almost exactly the way I remember playing them on the original consoles. My only complaint was a bit of lag during a DS emulation which can be solved with a simply video card upgrade. I was still able to play it through without too much problems. And I've never had any problems with the interface from the emulators I use.

Fact: Most 'emulators' are, infact, only emulated into memory and then they become 'simulated'. Accuracy is not a priority at that point. For example, a large chunk of SNES games used a hardware switch placed directly into the cartridges. These were used to create custom graphical effects (the most notable one was the StarFox game that enabled 3D on an otherwise 2D console). An emulator would have to literally make a different case for each individual game that has that. Something that isn't very practical.

riverhippo wrote:

The same reason people blame Activision for their Skylanders toy 'gimick': To make revenue.

Considering they are losing money on each unit sold, the CEO and other officials are taking a 50% pay cut, and they are giving out a bunch of games for free, I think it is safe to say that they aren't really keen on screwing over their fans. I know it seems hard to respect a large corporation in an industry where it's very important to be critical, but considering that people keep sending petitions and emails for this kind of stuff, I think it's safe to say that (unlike Activision), Nintendo is keeping in touch with their userbase.

riverhippo wrote:

This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.

You're forgetting the price difference. For $50 I could by 20-30 classic games. Each one I know I will enjoy (if I've played them before). If I spent that on a newer game? Like you said, it 'may or may not be good'. Not to mention if I bought a classic game I haven't played before, it would still be 20x cheaper than a newer game.

riverhippo wrote:

I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.

Don't NEED to buy any game at all in that case. But the point in hand is that buying these still gives enjoyment. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

riverhippo wrote:

Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.

For $30, you got 4 games. The soundtrack had themes from ALL the Mario games (even the newer non-8-bit ones). You got a booklet too. I also don't see any graphical differences from the original game. Not to mention the games themselves were direct ROMs from the originals. I've gotten many hours out of this anyways. I'll still play it over again anyways.

As for a good updated game example? For one, Zelda: OoT has a few minor graphical enhancements, new controls, and allows you to play the Master Quest version along with it. Another would be all the old black-white Game Boy games. They use a type of anti-aliasing effect so that the larger resolutions can look clearer (unlike emulators that use blur, pixel scaling, or small screens). A remake of Cave Story is available too, which uses the bottom screen for a map/inventory. Granted, Cave Story is coming from the PC to the 3DS, but it is still during the time of the GBA.

Latias fan · Aug 15, 2011 3:19 AM

riverhippo wrote:

Latias fan wrote:
Me neither. I use Emulaters all the time. But i would still buy a new version of the game to see if it holds up to the original.
This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.
I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.
And if you are collecting them, how do you collect downloads?
Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.

Final Fantasy 5 Advance is a remake of Final Fantasy 5 for SNES it was put on the GBA. It was the best out of the "advance" games(They were remakes of Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6.) The reason it was the best is mostly because the other advance games were...adequate.Final Fantasy 4 Advance had massive bugs it was ridiculous. Final Fantasy 6 advance downgraded the music a lot. This is ridiculous because Final Fantasy 6 has the best soundtrack in the series next to Final Fantasy 10. Final Fantasy 5 advance however was better than the SNES version. The translation was redone and had more memorable lines.(Gilgamesh:And now we fight like men, and ladies. and ladies who dress like men for example) It also fixed a lot of the glitches it had in the SNES version. There are remakes who are actually better than the original. But the original can be replayed for nostalgic purposes.

riverhippo · Aug 15, 2011 3:20 AM

good arguements, but I still don't understand why it's worth $169 plus the cost of feature games.

My laptop, my external hard drive, and my gamepage all fit into my small backpack. and the emulating software and games isn't even on the external drive.

I suppose it's true that I can't walk while playing, or ride in the back seat of my mom's car while playing. But I drive my own car. I suppose me being older is a reason why handhelds don't seem practical for me. I'd much rather go do my work, put in 40 hour a week, take of business outside of home and then come home to play some hardcor online games on my PS3.

A non-negative question: Does 3DS have a netflix app? if it not, it should.

riverhippo · Aug 15, 2011 3:24 AM

Latias fan wrote:

riverhippo wrote:
Latias fan wrote:
Me neither. I use Emulaters all the time. But i would still buy a new version of the game to see if it holds up to the original.
This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.
I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.
And if you are collecting them, how do you collect downloads?
Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.
Final Fantasy 5 Advance is a remake of Final Fantasy 5 for SNES it was put on the GBA. It was the best out of the "advance" games(They were remakes of Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6.) The reason it was the best is mostly because the other advance games were...adequate.Final Fantasy 4 Advance had massive bugs it was ridiculous. Final Fantasy 6 advance downgraded the music a lot. This is ridiculous because Final Fantasy 6 has the best soundtrack in the series next to Final Fantasy 10. Final Fantasy 5 advance however was better than the SNES version. The translation was redone and had more memorable lines.(Gilgamesh:And now we fight like men, and ladies. and ladies who dress like men for example) It also fixed a lot of the glitches it had in the SNES version. There are remakes who are actually better than the original. But the original can be replayed for nostalgic purposes.

I know it's early, but are there any 3DS updates on GBA and SNES games? cuz that's what I was mostly talking about. It's looking past the point of emulating things pre-DS, because I'm bad like that.

Latias fan · Aug 15, 2011 3:25 AM

riverhippo wrote:

Latias fan wrote:
riverhippo wrote:
This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.
I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.
And if you are collecting them, how do you collect downloads?
Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.
Final Fantasy 5 Advance is a remake of Final Fantasy 5 for SNES it was put on the GBA. It was the best out of the "advance" games(They were remakes of Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6.) The reason it was the best is mostly because the other advance games were...adequate.Final Fantasy 4 Advance had massive bugs it was ridiculous. Final Fantasy 6 advance downgraded the music a lot. This is ridiculous because Final Fantasy 6 has the best soundtrack in the series next to Final Fantasy 10. Final Fantasy 5 advance however was better than the SNES version. The translation was redone and had more memorable lines.(Gilgamesh:And now we fight like men, and ladies. and ladies who dress like men for example) It also fixed a lot of the glitches it had in the SNES version. There are remakes who are actually better than the original. But the original can be replayed for nostalgic purposes.
I know it's early, but are there any 3DS updates on GBA and SNES games? cuz that's what I was mostly talking about. It's looking past the point of emulating things pre-DS, because I'm bad like that.

I don't have a 3DS. Ask Neoty

Neotyguy40 · Aug 15, 2011 3:55 AM

riverhippo wrote:

This sounds like you'd rather buy two of the same game cuz you like the game, instead of saving the money buying the duplicate to buy a new game that may or may not be good.

You're forgetting the price difference. For $50 I could buy 20-30 classic games. Each one I know I will enjoy (if I've played them before). If I spent that on a newer game? Like you said, it 'may or may not be good'. Not to mention if I bought a classic game I haven't played before, it would still be 20x cheaper than a newer game with the exact same chance I would enjoy it.

riverhippo wrote:

I don't care how good a game is, unless you're collecting the games, you don't need to buy two of the same.

Don't NEED to buy any game at all in that case. But the point in hand is that buying these still gives enjoyment. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

riverhippo wrote:

Give me the best example of an 'updated' GBA or SNES game, and try to impress me. My personal besty experience is SNES's Super Mario All-stars. And it made me a little upset because the soundtrack was changed from the nostalgic 8-bit sounds and the graphics we're all made to SNES standards. It was 'ok', but I'd rather play the originals. The best thing about SMAS was the lost levels, which isn't a 'new' game anyway.

For $30, you got 4 games. The soundtrack had themes from ALL the Mario games (even the newer non-8-bit ones). You got a booklet too. I also don't see any graphical differences from the original game. Not to mention the games themselves were direct ROMs from the originals. I've gotten many hours out of this anyways. I'll still play it over again anyways.

As for a good updated game example? For one, Zelda: OoT has a few minor graphical enhancements, new controls, and allows you to play the Master Quest version along with it. Another would be all the old black-white Game Boy games. They use a type of pixelated anti-aliasing effect so that the larger resolutions can look clearer (unlike emulators that use blur, pixel scaling, or small screens). A remake of Cave Story is available too, which uses the bottom screen for a map/inventory. Granted, Cave Story is coming from the PC to the 3DS, but it is still during the time of the GBA.

riverhippo wrote:

good arguements, but I still don't understand why it's worth $169 plus the cost of feature games.
My laptop, my external hard drive, and my gamepage all fit into my small backpack. and the emulating software and games isn't even on the external drive.

Again, I could fit my NES and a screen into a bag too, but that still doesn't make it nearly as 'portable'. There is a reason you don't see people carrying boom-boxes around on their shoulder.

riverhippo wrote:

I suppose it's true that I can't walk while playing, or ride in the back seat of my mom's car while playing. But I drive my own car. I suppose me being older is a reason why handhelds don't seem practical for me. I'd much rather go do my work, put in 40 hour a week, take of business outside of home and then come home to play some hardcor online games on my PS3.

Sounds kind of elitist to me. I have a 40-hour work week too (generally longer since commuting is about 2 hours one way). I also drive my own car. Not to mention the hundred of hours I put into CoD UO, TF2, Civilization, and my PS3 and Xbox games. Non of that means a single thing to me.

riverhippo wrote:

A non-negative question: Does 3DS have a netflix app? if it not, it should.

I don't personally have a Netflix account (cancelled it temporarily for the past few months), but it does have a Netflix app you can download.

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