X-Men: First Class

The Mad Thatter · May 15, 2011 8:47 PM

Am I the only one desperate to see this film? I'm a pretty big X-Men fan and this one looks like it's going to be good.
Plus James MacAvoy's in it. And I love him.

Anyway, any other thoughts?

Latias fan · May 15, 2011 9:37 PM

X-Men should have died after the third movie.

Mr. John · May 16, 2011 1:40 AM

Mr. The Mad Thatter do you know anything about the mutants/characters in this film because I've never heard of them before?

As for the movie I'm a huge X-Men fan and let me tell you something jack. I am going to go strolling down to the movie theatre camp out and see the movie before everyone when it comes out. Because brother that's what an X-Men nerd like me does. cool

The Mad Thatter · May 16, 2011 4:25 PM

There's a couple of trailers about the characters up on YouTube, but I know a few of them (Mystique, for example). I'm hoping and hoping it'll be good, but if it's by the guys who made the film about Wolverine then it should be.

Plus my favourite band have done the official song for it, which is a bonus.

riverhippo · May 16, 2011 4:55 PM

what i don't like about franchises like the X-men one, is that the films are made in such a way to grab greater audiences to see them, like pretty actors, special effects, and stuff like that. All that is good, but when it collides with the true nerdy nature of comic book geeks, it can get pretty messy.

IMO, if you're gonna make an epic comic book movie, make it about the comic book, and don't include Hollywood's stamp of approval.

Good movies are movies where everyone likes the same thing about it. A couple dating to a movie should not walk out with the gal saying "I like the romance," and the guy saying, "i liked the action." Without any real common ground to talk on the movie, it just doesn't become anything great than 'just another movie.' This is why I follow directors and not actors.

ontels · May 16, 2011 5:12 PM

Wait you saying that a film shouldn’t have a famous cast and big special effect budget because it's nerdy? That’s just a depressing point of view if you ask me.

Rurikredwolf · May 16, 2011 7:38 PM

I'm gonna see this. I am a huge fan of Marvel, so yeah.

Neotyguy40 · May 16, 2011 7:40 PM

This is just another movie leading up the the Avengers... They're just pumping these movies to make a base for that movie. They aren't actually focusing on the quality right now. Just like Thor, it's probably going to be a bad movie. I don't even want to know what Captain America is going to be.

Latias fan · May 16, 2011 8:08 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

This is just another movie leading up the the Avengers... They're just pumping these movies to make a base for that movie. They aren't actually focusing on the quality right now. Just like Thor, it's probably going to be a bad movie. I don't even want to know what Captain America is going to be.

I actually just saw Thor yesterday and i gotta say it was pretty lame.

Reasons below

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Rurikredwolf · May 16, 2011 8:56 PM

I enjoyed Thor. *bleep* all y'all who say otherwise. Especially you, Latias. You always have something negative to say about everything ever. Emo

Latias fan · May 16, 2011 9:10 PM

Rurikredwolf wrote:

I enjoyed Thor. *bleep* all y'all who say otherwise. Especially you, Latias. You always have something negative to say about everything ever. Emo

I'm not emo, I just have pretty high expectations for everything.

Rurikredwolf · May 16, 2011 9:20 PM

Well just sit back and enjoy something for once. Seriously, it *bleep*s everyone off.

Mr. John · May 16, 2011 9:48 PM

Gotta see Captain America and Thor now. First Thor. But like everyone says they are most likey just making an effort for The Avengers.

Aceedwin · May 16, 2011 10:30 PM

Rurikredwolf wrote:

Well just sit back and enjoy something for once. Seriously, it *bleep*s everyone off.

It's not *bleep*ing me off, as it happens. Keep me out of your hateful mob-style ravings. Being a little critical when it comes to poor movies is not a crime. Neither is expressing an opinion on a forum, especially since the post was entire appropriate. Targetting people for abuse on the basis of whether they liked a film or not is a lot less appropriate, I believe.

Neotyguy40 · May 16, 2011 11:17 PM

You want those of us to just *bleep* ourselves because we don't like a movie that you like? How about you just ask us why we don't like it. Here's my reasons:

1. Everything is expected. Right at the beginning, you can tell that Loki is going to be the villain. It's just the way he acts as a child. Not to mention they didn't really make it a surprise that Thor was going to go to go to Earth. They should have put the first clip in AFTER the fact he was sent back. Not to mention you found out Loki was an ice giant pretty early in the movie.

2. They put two action events very close to each other near the end. When Thor fought that metal suit and the fight between Thor and Loki were only a few minutes apart. It made the ending go by a lot quicker than it should have, and a stupid mistake like that could make LoTR feel like a short movie.

3. Hawkeye was really emphasized during the scene where Thor first tries to take the hammer. They showed him in one scene, he made a big impression (when he took the bow instead of the rifle), and then they don't even mention him again later. This also made the movie feel short because it felt like he was going to appear again later. Not to mention it proved it was just a lead-in for The Avengers.

4. The comic relief of the humans on Earth was funny. And I will even say the jokes are pretty original. But it just seemed like it jumped from each side of the seriousness spectrum back and forth. Basically, the jokes came at times where there shouldn't have been any. Despite contrary belief, comic relief is not appropriate at all times.

5. Many of the characters have no personality. Thor himself seemed to me like "That guy with the hammer" and nothing more. Not only was this the impression I got from him, but over and over he kept proving it to me that this was what he was. Just a guy with a hammer. No intelligence, no skills outside of fighting. This could be said with most characters. However, I would say that at least Loki was developed pretty well, unlike the rest of the people. I was able to predict almost everything the characters would do because of that.

6. They certainly turn Thor into a Marry Sue with his power. I would not be surprised if Thor was able to destroy all the ice giants single handedly with his hammer. He was considerably stronger than all of his friends combined, and I don't even know how they will weaken him enough to make him on the same level as the rest of The Avengers.

Overall, I feel the movie was just a special effect house just to make money and lead up into the movie they are actually making an effort in.

riverhippo · May 17, 2011 1:16 AM

ontels wrote:

Wait you saying that a film shouldn’t have a famous cast and big special effect budget because it's nerdy? That’s just a depressing point of view if you ask me.

Not saying it shouldn't, just saying that Hollywood sometimes demands the big names for a movie to be worth selling. The movie industry sometimes cares more about getting people into the theater, by promoting it with names and sponsers, than actually making something worth watching because it's a good movie. Just like what Activision has been doing with the Spyro franchise.

Anyone who loves movies knows what I'm talking about.

Swaffy · May 17, 2011 4:25 PM

I'm not big on movies, but I definately agree with your point. I like a well-
made movie, and I don't care one bit about who the actors are.

ontels · May 17, 2011 5:24 PM

But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t films out there with big names and budgets and geekynes that are good, like The Lord of the Rings.

Rurikredwolf · May 17, 2011 7:15 PM

Neotyguy40 wrote:

You want those of us to just *bleep* ourselves because we don't like a movie that you like? How about you just ask us why we don't like it. Here's my reasons:
1. Everything is expected. Right at the beginning, you can tell that Loki is going to be the villain. It's just the way he acts as a child. Not to mention they didn't really make it a surprise that Thor was going to go to go to Earth. They should have put the first clip in AFTER the fact he was sent back. Not to mention you found out Loki was an ice giant pretty early in the movie.
2. They put two action events very close to each other near the end. When Thor fought that metal suit and the fight between Thor and Loki were only a few minutes apart. It made the ending go by a lot quicker than it should have, and a stupid mistake like that could make LoTR feel like a short movie.
3. Hawkeye was really emphasized during the scene where Thor first tries to take the hammer. They showed him in one scene, he made a big impression (when he took the bow instead of the rifle), and then they don't even mention him again later. This also made the movie feel short because it felt like he was going to appear again later. Not to mention it proved it was just a lead-in for The Avengers.
4. The comic relief of the humans on Earth was funny. And I will even say the jokes are pretty original. But it just seemed like it jumped from each side of the seriousness spectrum back and forth. Basically, the jokes came at times where there shouldn't have been any. Despite contrary belief, comic relief is not appropriate at all times.
5. Many of the characters have no personality. Thor himself seemed to me like "That guy with the hammer" and nothing more. Not only was this the impression I got from him, but over and over he kept proving it to me that this was what he was. Just a guy with a hammer. No intelligence, no skills outside of fighting. This could be said with most characters. However, I would say that at least Loki was developed pretty well, unlike the rest of the people. I was able to predict almost everything the characters would do because of that.
6. They certainly turn Thor into a Marry Sue with his power. I would not be surprised if Thor was able to destroy all the ice giants single handedly with his hammer. He was considerably stronger than all of his friends combined, and I don't even know how they will weaken him enough to make him on the same level as the rest of The Avengers.
Overall, I feel the movie was just a special effect house just to make money and lead up into the movie they are actually making an effort in.

Mostly directed at Latias, but hey, I'll take that one too. I'll admit the movie has faults (Shakey Camera system anyone?). You're right, I should asked. Been aggrivated in a hellsload of pain.

RangerOfIthilien · May 18, 2011 5:43 AM

riverhippo wrote:

Not saying it shouldn't, just saying that Hollywood sometimes demands the big names for a movie to be worth selling. The movie industry sometimes cares more about getting people into the theater, by promoting it with names and sponsers, than actually making something worth watching because it's a good movie. Just like what Activision has been doing with the Spyro franchise.
Anyone who loves movies knows what I'm talking about.

Well, I do agree that many movies put the focus more on the celebrities than on the plot itself, but I don't feel like the X-Men movies have done this (except Origins: Wolverine. Why they finally put Deadpool into a movie and had Ryan Reynolds play him baffles me). Sure it deviates from the plot of the comics, but honestly the comics have been around for a long time now. The story is way too complicated to cover in a few movies. They have to change it a bit to make it appealing to the common audience as well as the nerdier fans. Also, having big name actors isn't bad in and of itself, without good actors, a good story can be hard to take seriously. This I think we agree on, that it's when the company markets that instead of developing a story when films go wrong.

As for your earlier point about a good movie being one that everyone enjoys for the same reason, I have to disagree with that too. I think it's interesting seeing the movie from another person's perspective, and seeing what about it made them think, as opposed to knowing exactly what they're going to say because it's the same thing that everyone else likes about it.

The Mad Thatter · May 18, 2011 8:48 PM

I liked Thor. My eyes hurt from the effects at the end of it, but I enjoyed it (plotwise, I assure you). I love a good superhero movie...have I said that?

Anyway, thought I'd post some trailers.

Official trailer one.

Official trailer two - my favourite.

Beast character trailer.

Havok character trailer.

Banshee character trailer.

Mystique character trailer.

The Mad Thatter · Jun 03, 2011 11:01 PM

Saw X-Ment yesterday - fantastic. James McAvoy deserves about fifty Oscars for his acting in that. One bit didn't fit with the other films but I don't care - it was amazing.

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Swaffy · Jun 04, 2011 1:58 AM

Mr. John wrote:

As for the movie I'm a huge X-Men fan and let me tell you something jack. I am going to go strolling down to the movie theatre camp out and see the movie before everyone when it comes out. Because brother that's what an X-Men nerd like me does.

I like the way you talk, man; real fresh!
As for the movie, it seems pretty interesting.

Latias fan · Jun 04, 2011 4:32 AM

The Mad Thatter wrote:

Saw X-Ment yesterday - fantastic. James McAvoy deserves about fifty Oscars for his acting in that. One bit didn't fit with the other films but I don't care - it was amazing.
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I loved the scene when Erik was trying to turn the satellite dish thing to face him and Charles. The way they were both crying was so nice, somehow. I loved the whole relationship between Magneto and Xavier anyway - really well done.

If you can PM me what was bit was "off".

The Mad Thatter · Jun 04, 2011 1:41 PM

Latias fan wrote:

The Mad Thatter wrote:
Saw X-Ment yesterday - fantastic. James McAvoy deserves about fifty Oscars for his acting in that. One bit didn't fit with the other films but I don't care - it was amazing.
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I loved the scene when Erik was trying to turn the satellite dish thing to face him and Charles. The way they were both crying was so nice, somehow. I loved the whole relationship between Magneto and Xavier anyway - really well done.
If you can PM me what was bit was "off".

Do you mean the bit that didn't fit with the other films?

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