Does anyone want the old Spyro games back?

Saeth · Nov 22, 2009 3:32 AM

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So this is after TLOS right? If not then I'm little lost here... probably can find out the answers in your sig right wink ?

Anyway... so Spyro (TLOS) kills Aeris (Cynder) and then Ignitus summons our good ol pal Spyro (old) to do the job right then... correct?

If so... alright then, sounds good actually... a little confusing though... only because I have no idea where this is coming from :? ...

ratchet · Nov 22, 2009 3:39 AM

No. But thankyou for your interest. about 5000 Dragon years after TLOS (about 15, 000 human years), Old spyro is born along with sparx. Ignitus who has been the chronicler for this time notices this and realises that it is the first sign of history repeating itself, especially as spyro is as powerful as the purple dragons from ancient times. When aeries Walks into avalar is deafeated, and is revealed to have the birth name "cynder" Ignitus realises he must step in and tells spyro the the past is repeating itself and it seems that the dark master will rise again.

Saeth · Nov 22, 2009 3:45 AM

Aha! Now I see it smile ... it like repeating the events in the First TLOS but differently in some form or matter that implies the old events are coming back to haunt the land once again.

Kinda like a sleeping evil that lies dormant waiting to be unleashed again... now I get it.

Still sounds interesting though... and sounds like way to make the old Spyro take over for the new Spyro in the events that already transpired.

ratchet · Nov 22, 2009 3:52 AM

Yeah exaculy, that's the point. Its a way to give closure to TLOS fansa nd return to the old games smoothely. I have a more in-depth look at this on another opic. I forget which one though

Saeth · Nov 22, 2009 4:01 AM

Well, if Activision / sierra or who ever is going to make the next Spryo game pays any heed to fan forums or their fans then this is a possibility. But right now anything and everything is up in the air waiting to come down and finalized or inspected :-|.

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Nov 22, 2009 10:49 AM

I reckon that they should make a 'classic' Spyro game sometime. Right now Spyro is going in the direction of Sonic - but Sega's being smart for a change and are making Project Needlemouse, a game that is like 'classic' Sonic. They need to do what Sega is doing.

ratchet · Nov 22, 2009 11:34 AM

and like sonic, spyro has a small fanbase that foolows it either wherever it goes or are fanboys/girls who are obsessed with the characters. Unlike Other gaming fanbases, New Spyro's fanbase has a large female audience

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Nov 22, 2009 11:59 AM

I think we know who is the cause of that...*cough* Cynder *cough*

ratchet · Nov 22, 2009 12:05 PM

yeah, dragon fangirls and cynder. id say the fanbase is made up of about 30 percent cynder fangirls

Hurricos_McBreixo · Nov 27, 2009 8:12 PM

I cringe at those numbers

MrXLink · Nov 27, 2009 8:41 PM

Actually, Cynder messed it up for me as well. The Classics are the best. Personally, the first one was the best for me. When I saw ANB, I thought: "What the heck have they done with Spyro?". And that didn't change and still hasn't changed. Oh my, please bring him back, please. TLoS really sucks imo.

Aura24 · Nov 27, 2009 8:44 PM

Well, we can't change what Activision has already planned for the Spyro franchise.

MrXLink · Nov 27, 2009 8:50 PM

I know... Darn it.

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Nov 28, 2009 5:43 PM

There's always a chance, you never know...

Personally, I think that they could and should make two of the different Spyro's. One for Classic gamers, one for TLoS gamers. Then everyone can stick to their own fanbases, be happy, and there would be no flame wars.

ratchet · Nov 29, 2009 2:16 AM

Scarlett, I think that that would confuse the LOS fanbase who have never heard of the original games, even more than if they just went back to the original games. and so activision wouldnt go for that, as much as id or others would like it to happen.
And Aura24, Hopefully developers see these forums and know what they can change/do, Activision try to please the fans. so if they knew that what they "planned" isnt working, or something that could be a better option, they wont stick to what they "planned"

Saeth · Nov 29, 2009 4:16 AM

I have to agree, we aren't mindless sheep who well follow everything and anything that Activision pulls out of their hat... If they want to make a lot of sales then they will either prey on the hype of the a new Spyro game and use their marketing skills to persuade gamers to buy, or give the fans what they want, or close to it (I know Dev's can't do everything). Right now, at least as it looks like on this thread, it looks like more game elements and mechanics from the originals than just pulling stuff out of thin air.

Maybe Cynder did, ruin Spyro and brought in a lot of unneeded attention to Spyro, or maybe its Activision's fault for going in that direction :-| . Who knows, but what TLOS ruined for me was that they changed his personality and to me that's a low blow, or even a very rude, malicious, and spiteful smack to the face for old Spyro fans... at least that's how it felt to me anyway. <_<

ratchet · Nov 29, 2009 5:02 AM

The same goes for me Saeth, I probably wouldnt of minded TLOS if they just kept spyros look and personality. Many people do not realise how spyro changed in TLOS, and so dont think its a big deal. But Yeah, i got attached to the old spyro, and is just plain rude to change a characters look and personality for no reason. I realise many LOS fans say they like the gary-stu Spyro is in TLOS, but the reality is that they just like TLOS.
Changing the character now would just feel stupid to me. the damage is done, and a sudden change in character would be weird

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Nov 29, 2009 9:36 AM

Yeah, well, Spyro and The Legend of Spyro are two different fandoms. All I'm suggesting is that the developers keep both fandoms happy and do games for each. Ever heard of the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons? There were two of them - a lighthearted, funny one called The Adventures of Sonic Hedgehog and a dark, serious one dubbed Sonic the Hedgehog SatAM (which I love). They ran at the same time, right? And everybody kept to what they preferred.

And, to me, fans that haven't even heard of Original Spyro aren't true Spyro fans. I apologise if that sounds nasty, but that's my opinion. The Legend of Spyro is NOT the true Spyro. Spyro is a badass dragon that'll toast you if you remark on his size, not a wimpy, goody-goody pink dragon that is in the Ancient Prophecy of Gary-Stu-ness or whatever.

And I agree with Saeth - Cynder DID bring a lot of unneeded attention to Spyro. Big time.

Saeth · Nov 30, 2009 12:42 AM

@Ratchet: It’s no longer Spyro if they change his personality. I can understand maturing and growing up, but going completely 180 or even off the wall… is not the same thing… <_<

@Scarlett –Fear – Dragon : SatAM was my favorite as well… however I will not say that having two games, Classics and TLOS, is not possible, but I will say it’s not probable. :-| I say this, because I don’t know two Developers who are willing to make a Spyro game in each of their own light (Classic’s Light, and TLOS light). It is possible, I mean look at the Paper Mario series and Mario and Luigi Series… both are RPG’s and both take place in different areas, M&L being more closely related to the Mushroom Kingdom. The trick here is actually getting the skill, talent, and passion for excellence for each Spyro Game…

Cynder brought in a lot of fans for all the wrong reasons… wretched scallies. <_< Same for Krystal and Midna… look, people can tell a character is… sexy just by looking at them… I don’t want their personality to be bleak and boring or be used just for that purpose. I’m sure Cynder or any of those characters that I just listed could have brought in a lot more fandom if their personality was better… except for Midna, to me she was ok… sharp tongue little imp that she is. smile

ratchet · Nov 30, 2009 4:59 AM

@Ratchet: It’s no longer Spyro if they change his personality. I can understand maturing and growing up, but going completely 180 or even off the wall… is not the same thing…

I agree, and yeah, it might be just personal opinion, but i still find no reason for sierra to of changed it, The games wouldnt be any different to what they were except more original fans would prefer the game. Its not a reboot, it was a "smash and fix" and it wasnt fixed up the way it should of been, and it defiently shouldnt of been smashed in the first place.

And yeah Saeth, I really dont see it happening either, the whole reason sierra/activision focussed on TLOS was because of a safe route. something that they knew they wouldnt have to work hard on but it would still sell. having 2 series at once is not the kind of thing they would do.

As for the Cynder fans, I recon they were about 30% of the market or more (think of all the spyro X Cynder fangirls on youtube, and all the girly fan made dragons and stuff) so I guess it sounds cruel, but I wish Cynder never existed so that TLOS wouldnt of sold as well as it did, and continued to be a "safe route"

Saeth · Dec 01, 2009 3:35 AM

Cynder is basically nothing w/o Spyro. W/o him she's just another dragon in a virtual world. However, I feel that she gets way more attention then our fiery little purple dragon. But then again, seeing how is in TLOS I don't blame the fans for liking her over Spyro... such a shame sad

SapphireSheep · Dec 13, 2009 2:56 AM

Saeth wrote:

Cynder is basically nothing w/o Spyro. W/o him she's just another dragon in a virtual world. However, I feel that she gets way more attention then our fiery little purple dragon. But then again, seeing how is in TLOS I don't blame the fans for liking her over Spyro... such a shame

this is nothing new. characters in almost anything will have more fans than main characters. it happens alot. but it dosen't make it any less of a shame. though I am a big cynder fan.

i look forward to new games though. blizzard took over/working together with sierra. and blizzard is pretty epic.

I also like spyro's new personality alot in LoS. classic spyro seems too cocky and I'm not always fond of thoes kinds of characters. but thats just me.

ratchet · Dec 13, 2009 11:15 PM

SapphireSheep wrote:

I also like spyro's new personality alot in LoS. classic spyro seems too cocky and I'm not always fond of thoes kinds of characters. but thats just me.

I like his cocky attitude. He sometimes questions things taht you might be asking about the game, And I liked how he wasnt a giant gary-stu like TLOs Spyroo. He acttually has some personality. When it comes down ti things, theres no reason to change spyros personality so a few fans would find him more loveable

Saeth · Dec 30, 2009 10:50 PM

I have to concur with Ratchet on this one. I'm glad you found the new Spyro... er, enjoyable, but I personally despise him, SapphireSheep... I'm sorry the old Spyro showed no fear, and he was always ready to do something even when it seemed all is lost. Heck, he had gumption... The new Spyro seems wish-washy, and well, just shows a lack of confidence.

Like Ratchet said he's a Gary-Stu... Heck, what really makes me despise this new Spyro was this little scenario:

When Cynder was under control of Malefore in DOTD, Cynder is asking Spyro why he isn't fighting back. Spyro, in a dismay voice says "There's nothing left for me to fight for" mad Ugh! I can't believe he said that... Ignitus' death was in vain!... ungrateful little freak... <_<

Again, I'm glad you like him SaphireSheep, but I don't.

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Dec 31, 2009 9:03 AM

I have to agree with Saeth here. The new Spyro is a wimpy, boring old Gary-Stu. And in DotD, I think in the scene with him, Hunter, Sparx and Cynder at the campfire...he's all like, 'I have to stop it!' Not 'I'm gonna go torch Malefor's butt!' In my opinion, the second line would have been much more cuter and lovable.

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