what will happen to spyro ater dawn of the dragon ?

ratchet · Nov 30, 2008 3:20 AM

Yeah, that statement seemed in riddles, it said nothing about continuing on the TLOS series after DOTD.
But knowing Sierra anyway, they will probably continue with TLOs, either that or just bomb the series. Going back to the old ones, i agree, probably wont be a wise move, as they know they can't pull it off.
Continueing with TLOS would steal flock in a reasonable amount of money, considering the fanbase. No matter how bad they make the story or gameplay, TLOS fans will still love it. Moving deeper into Cliches and RPG styles will certaiinly be a wise move. But yeah, i really think that DOTD was a waist of time and they could have improved many other things.
Mike obviously loves Spyro so he probably wont dump it.

Who know what we could see next....It might be a prequel to TLOS featuring Ignitus as the main character, or you play as the vil ones destroying many dragons and such. They might just make a game after TLOS where Gaul's son tries to reincarnate the Dark master (but i think that would be a bit of an anticlimax for DOTD, seeing he's come back only 1 game after he died) . They might make a spinoff game. They might make a game about the Dark Master's origons

RedDragonX · Nov 30, 2008 3:36 AM

Who knows....if they grew any wiser they would learn from their mistakes on this past series of games and find a way to make them better...aka get away from the linear gameplay and develop a new story...and cliches will always be there so I wont really hit that too bad...as long as it's something enjoyable...and that's another reason I'm glad they didn't do another game like the originals...because I thought they would just butcher it worse then the games before..

Not so much a waste of time...I found them enjoyable..but of course everyone will have their view about it....I personally like being able to play as two differently designed Spyro's...idk I guess I just like switching between the two worlds. Anyways either way you look at it...the future is up in the air for now....until after this movie comes out I don't think we will see anything...and after that who knows...

Hopefully someone will get the right formula that helps include all of the Spyro fanbase...instead of keeping it divided as they have managed to do...It will be interesting to see the next move.

Cynder's #1 Fan · Dec 05, 2008 1:35 AM

I'm hoping that they'll continue with the TLoS series. I actually like Spyro's new look better, and also how you don't have to travel around from portal to portal.
And I've become accustumed to the characters and story-line. What can I say? I just like the series better. *waits for angry mob*

Kazoobie64 · Dec 05, 2008 1:51 AM

Cynder's #1 Fan wrote:

and also how you don't have to travel around from portal to portal.

TLoS isn't any different, just that it's missing the portals. It's "here, have a cutscene." **LOADING** Oh hey, now you're somewhere else and you didn't need to travel there!

RedDragonX · Dec 05, 2008 3:52 AM

LoS was just a linear bash and bash from scene to scene story...while the original games were pretty much just open environment from start to finish. Like in the original game...the only cutscenes were at the beginning....anytime you freed a dragon....then the end. Everything else was just open gamplay...which I did enjoy....but I enjoy the LoS for it's story and the characters...and I don't mind the gameplay that much....but that's just me.

Different for every person..both simple and basic ideas...just extremely different from each other...things will always keep changing.

Jackson117 · Dec 05, 2008 8:16 AM

IN the LOS story: spyro settles down with the wife and kids

IN the world: they will maybe do a reboot but all the originals, and some LOS characters (cynder mainly) not to mention there will be jokes and spyro will have he's hothead sarcasm personality

Spyro Master · Dec 05, 2008 6:49 PM

we will just have to w8 to c wot will happen to spyro in the spring but in the meantime we will all guess and argue like we r now

RedDragonX · Dec 05, 2008 9:55 PM

Well we are just gonna wait as said before lol...and yes people will always continue to argue so long as there needs are not met. Anyways at least we have the movies to look forward too....and even when they do create the new game...I don't think the old games will be involved. They wanted to get away from that style in the first place...so I don't see them returning to it...but that's just me.

Stormy · Dec 05, 2008 10:47 PM

I don't think anyone really wanted to move away from the old style of games. What they wanted to do was disassociate themselves from the fail that was Enter the Dragonfly through Shadow Legacy, which didn't really work (for me at least) because TLoS is even more fail than they are.

(Yeah, I figured I'd better throw in the "in my opinion" type thing on this one. =P )

Jackson117 · Dec 05, 2008 11:05 PM

Quick lets all go get some frosty milkshakes and wait for a a better spyro game to come along

RedDragonX · Dec 06, 2008 1:21 AM

Well I am pretty sure that you don't know every single Spyro fan in the United States of America lol....and I am pretty sure that their are more then the 2300 who are on this site....so thinking that anyone didn't want a change doesn't seem realistic....but yes they did want to do something different from the failures from ETD to SL....and so they introduced the LoS...which wasn't a complete failure...in MY opinion of course...it will always be seen as a failure to such lovers of the original games as yourself...so long as it doesn't live up to the spirit of the old games pretty much anything new will continue to be a disappointment to you...and I'm not surprised nor do I blame you for your feelings.

But to say that the LoS was a complete failure isn't exactly true. I have seen more fans out now then I have before...and of course I will wait for someone to say that their are far more fans for the originals then the new ones...to which I will again say you don't know every single fan out there but are instead confined mostly to this forum which for the most part is gung ho for the old series....especially after what I heard transpired here before. I love the old games and I respect the new ones..they are all part of the same franchise that they have attempted to build upon...but as the years go on and things get more advanced in todays technological market...things will get more and more difficult to live up too...and now that the fanbase is so seperated...pretty much nobody will be happy with anything that they can produce....and that's all my opinion.

ratchet · Dec 06, 2008 1:38 AM

and of course I will wait for someone to say that their are far more fans for the originals then the new ones...to which I will again say you don't know every single fan out there but are instead confined mostly to this forum which for the most part is gung ho for the old series

There's no denying that isn't true seeing records show much more copies sold when it coimes to the origials, alot more publicity for the dragon at the time, better reviews and every non-Spyro related but videogame-related place you go you'll hear people say "The Games After Spyro 3 sucked" and "Spyro sucks now" or "Spyro should've died long ago" with little people not agreeing with that. Heck, some people didn't even know there were any spyro games after spyro 3, some even after spyro 1!
I remember a poll somewgere it was like Gamespot or something which asked "Which Spyro games do you prefer" and over 2000 votes got for the original 3 but only 96 for TLOS!

Stormy · Dec 06, 2008 1:52 AM

so thinking that anyone didn't want a change doesn't seem realistic....

I was talking more about the developers than the fans.

. I have seen more fans out now then I have before...and of course I will wait for someone to say that their are far more fans for the originals then the new ones...to which I will again say you don't know every single fan out there but are instead confined mostly to this forum which for the most part is gung ho for the old series....especially after what I heard transpired here before.

And as for TLoS seeming to have more fans, I think that is simply not true. On fansites, Spyro fans seem to be half-and-half, some forums leaning more to the originals and some more toward the new. However, I was interested to find a general trend in the Spyro fandom outside of the fansites, and that trend seemed to point toward a general preference for the originals, and that Spyro games after TLoS suck. Notice I have said trend and general, so don't give me the ultimatum stuff. =P

Also, of course there are going to be more TLoS fans on fansites because TLoS is, well, new, and people who like it are going to want to join sites to talk about it. Many of the original fans probably said all there is to say about the original games years ago and thus don't have much interest in fansites (yes, there are exceptions). Naturally, what's new is going to bring traffic, whether it's the general opinion or not. It is for this same reason that you usually can't trust reviews from fansites.

ratchet · Dec 06, 2008 2:08 AM

Stormy wrote:

. I have seen more fans out now then I have before...and of course I will wait for someone to say that their are far more fans for the originals then the new ones...to which I will again say you don't know every single fan out there but are instead confined mostly to this forum which for the most part is gung ho for the old series....especially after what I heard transpired here before.
And as for TLoS seeming to have more fans, I think that is simply not true. On fansites, Spyro fans seem to be half-and-half, some forums leaning more to the originals and some more toward the new. However, I was interested to find a general trend in the Spyro fandom outside of the fansites, and that trend seemed to point toward a general preference for the originals, and that Spyro games after TLoS suck. Notice I have said trend and general, so don't give me the ultimatum stuff. =P
Also, of course there are going to be more TLoS fans on fansites because TLoS is, well, new, and people who like it are going to want to join sites to talk about it. Many of the original fans probably said all there is to say about the original games years ago and thus don't have much interest in fansites (yes, there are exceptions). Naturally, what's new is going to bring traffic, whether it's the general opinion or not. It is for this same reason that you usually can't trust reviews from fansites.

Couldn't of said it better myself!

Dark-Ignitus · Dec 06, 2008 3:14 PM

Im practicly certain that there is no going back to the old spyro games, seirra or who ever makes the Tlos series will probably do another trilogy.

Thats whut i think anyway

Stormy · Dec 06, 2008 3:31 PM

I think you're probably right. It's not what I want, but that's probably what's going to end up happening.

RedDragonX · Dec 06, 2008 4:05 PM

I just don't see them going back to games at all just as said above. They have no reason to in there mind..the only one I can think of is that they would want to at least bring most of the fans back into the fold.

And again Ratchet..I don't believe anything that is pretty much posted on the internet...especially a freaking poll lol...those are so unreliable it's not even funny. I know for a fact just like most that there are still plenty more fans of the original series then the new ones...and I am one of those fans, but I still give LoS its due because I simply enjoyed it as a gamer. And again I point out that so long as they do continue to produce something different...all of the die hard fans will hate it unless it involves the older series in some special way...and you can't deny that because it's plastered over most of the forums in this site lol...it's a point that will always be argued over unless they resolved it...but I hate to point out that they pretty much don't care. Both a disappointment and a gain I suppose.

I do believe that there are planty more fans of the originals...I never said that LoS had more...I don't know where you pulled that from lol..I simply stated that they have more fans then you guys think..and overall I have seen more people interested in the series as a whole..but I guess that would depend on the area that you live in...and I don't care what TREND you choose to follow lol...so no ultimatum stuff for you big_smile ...

And it would depend on the site that you visit I suppose to see just how many fans of either series post on...like this site for example...I have seen plenty more original fans then new fans...and I have heard many things that have occured because of that conflict...but I don't see as many fans of the new series very vocal on this board..mainly because it is filled with fans of the originals perhaps lol....and arguing with someone who's mind is pretty well set is going to be a pointless battle..so why bother. I have never trusted any review from any site...like I have said before...anything I here on the interent is just empty words floating in cyberspace...I will never believe a source unless I am given concrete real life evidence...to which in any of these topics...there is nothing but people's assumptions...so that leads me to belive my own lol.

Anyways I can only assume that they will not involve the older games anymore...they have pretty much set themselves apart from those in most regards...and regardless of not some people jump off the train or stay on...they will continue to change things...it's pretty much inevitable. That's just how I feel about it.

Cynder's #1 Fan · Dec 06, 2008 7:12 PM

Dark-Ignitus wrote:

Im practicly certain that there is no going back to the old spyro games, seirra or who ever makes the Tlos series will probably do another trilogy.
Thats whut i think anyway

I agree. It'd be hard for them to just suddenly go back to the originals, rather or not if people would like it or not, I don't see how they could with the way things are going right now. I don't even know what they could do with the originals if brought back; it's not like Ember goes evil and Spyro has to snap her out of it, i.e. it just seems impossible in my opinion.

RedDragonX · Dec 06, 2008 7:47 PM

Well it is possible....but why would they see reason to do such a thing like that. The entire point of the reboot was to break away and establish a new face to Spyro...so why change it when it wasn't a failure. Wouldn't be real logical if they did....but I won't rule out it is still a possibility. I still see the LoS going on with not real ties to the originals.

Spyrodude3 · Dec 06, 2008 8:03 PM

I know that they are still going to be more Spyro games, but I would like to see an adult Spyro and Sparx! smile

Stormy · Dec 06, 2008 9:09 PM

Cynder's #1 Fan wrote:

Dark-Ignitus wrote:
Im practicly certain that there is no going back to the old spyro games, seirra or who ever makes the Tlos series will probably do another trilogy.
Thats whut i think anyway
I agree. It'd be hard fort them to just suddenly go back to the originals, rather or not if people would like it or not, I don't see how they could with the way things are going right now. I don't even know what they could do with the originals if broughback; it's not like Ember goes evil and Spyro has to snap her out of it, i.e. it just seems impossible in my opinion.

There was much more to the original games than Ember. >__> Why does a character have to "go evil" for the game to be interesting? =P

What people usually mean when they say "bring back the originals" is games that are like the Insomniac ones, not AHT and SL. Less "epic" story, more fun gameplay and exploration.

But it probably won't happen; I agree about that, at least.

RedDragonX · Dec 06, 2008 10:02 PM

Well even the Insomniac games....those would def be the ones to go back to I agree...but I just don't see them changing course now...I doubt they would want to screw around with such a great trilogy..

TornWings · Dec 06, 2008 10:42 PM

RedDragon's got a point about fans of the new being less vocal, I've generally stopped posting in or even looking at these topics because I've gotten sick of hearing other people's problems about TLOS. That and generally speaking, negative opinions always seem to be a bit...louder (?) than positive ones.

Starscream · Dec 06, 2008 11:52 PM

That and generally speaking, negative opinions always seem to be a bit...louder (?) than positive ones.

Always was and always will be.

If somethings bad ans many people doesn't like it then they will complain so that the game developers would fix that in the future and make games enjoyable for both.

Like when people *bleep*ed and moaned over how Sonic 06 was horrible(it wasn't that bad to be honest) and after that we got Unleashed. Now where ever I go I only hear positive stuff from the fans...

So yeah live it it.

Stormy · Dec 07, 2008 12:25 AM

I do believe that there are planty more fans of the originals...I never said that LoS had more...I don't know where you pulled that from lol..I simply stated that they have more fans then you guys think..and overall I have seen more people interested in the series as a whole..but I guess that would depend on the area that you live in...and I don't care what TREND you choose to follow lol...so no ultimatum stuff for you ...

Ah, my mistake if that's not what you meant. It's one of the common arguments in favor of TLoS that I've had to put down over and over, so I've just gotten used to saying that. =P Yeah, I know it has fans, but the ones who stand out most to me are kind of annoying at times... like the ones who will kill you if you don't support Spyro x Cynder. Unfortunately, they seem to be the most vocal at times, and it gives the TLoS fandom in general a bad name. I'd love to talk original versus new with a TLoS fan who can articulately debate, but I guess the ones that can aren't willing to talk because of the strong negative opinions out there, as I've seen from this thread.... I don't know how else to say what I think other than being negative....

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