what will happen to spyro ater dawn of the dragon ?

Kazoobie64 · Nov 02, 2008 8:43 PM

I guess we were discussing what happens to the series after DotD. Of course it's going to be the same old "go back to the old platforming style or let it die" or "keep LoS going" and we'll get back to the same point as always.

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned one possibility, which is that they'll rip off Zelda and make ANOTHER whole new Spyro and say that "Spyro" is constantly being reborn. I think I'm more terrified of that happening than continuing TLoS. Or it could be good even if it's taking the Zelda approach. *shrug*

TornWings · Nov 02, 2008 10:07 PM

Well, that would depend on how they did it. It obviously works for LOZ. They've already got the "Legend of" part... it could work, though I'm wondering how'd they take his elemental abilities into account if they were passed on to the next game. I'd hope it's more DotD style where they're all available from the get-go.

Jackson117 · Nov 05, 2008 8:07 AM

for dawn of the dragon?
well i really don't know maybe spyro and cynder will return with a
secret but that would be a waste

oh go back into the other spyro series?

well basically all the bad guys are gone.

unless you port cynder from that and call it

Spyro:girl trouble

Elora:he's mine
Ember: no mine
Cynder: Mine!!!
Spyro:(Sigh)

ratchet · Nov 05, 2008 9:24 AM

well basically all the bad guys are gone.

Its called creating a new villian

Trasher258 · Nov 05, 2008 9:04 PM

So...what kind of villain would work besides the ones already done? The idea for Red being a rebel had a little potential but poorly wasted. Plain names like "The Sorceresses" just doesn't do it for me so I expect to see something more creative. I mean come on, Red, The Sorceress, The Sorcerer, etc. is just too stale.

So...anything else you want to say? I don't want to talk about it all day.

Kazoobie64 · Nov 05, 2008 9:16 PM

Are you challenging us to make a villain?

Trasher258 · Nov 05, 2008 9:20 PM

Kazoobie64 wrote:

Are you challenging us to make a villain?

I'm not really challenging you. I would like to see you try though.

Kazoobie64 · Nov 05, 2008 9:56 PM

Oh yay. We get to play Character Designer, where someone's the boss and the rest of the players are the designers that are paid to do what they're supposed to do. Let's start.

Ok boss, we have short amount of time for our deadline, I came up with this just now. How about...

Dragon Tamer

She's a villain who believes dragons are for the purpose of higher beings and wants to enslave all the races. She has a dragon mount who eventually helps Spyro out at the end of the game. We can design that dragon later.

What do you think, boss? Do you like the concept? Should we fix her up, make her more evil-looking, different hair, different outfit, switch genders? Or is it back to the drawing board for us?

Gunderstank · Nov 05, 2008 10:12 PM

I think she should look darker, and giver her a name that's not pronounceable. The dragon blue with a spiked collar and omg we must lose that hair, that would be JUST FABULOUS!!!

.........I'm having fun with this

Fletch_Talon · Nov 06, 2008 12:59 AM

The Dark Master (as partof the old spyro universe)

after mysteriously popping into existance in the dragon world (after being killed/banished from tLoS world) the dark master sees oppurtunity. suddenly, worlds are gradually becoming dark places, moody, depressing, unlike the bright and colourful world spyro once knew. everything is becoming gradually corrupted by the DM's prescence, including fellow dragons (a boss level could involve spyro battling an adult dragon, possibly female, conveniantly named cynder)

the cannon fodder or enemies in the game would be a bunch of summoned, monkey-esque creatures, all appropriately themed for the world theyre in

so thats one idea, i know i didnt technically create a villain, just thought id throw it out there since it has the potential to be old spyro, but with a story and characters which may please tLoS lovers

another idea closer to the original ideas, someones stealing butterflies, i mean so far theyve frozen dragons, stolen gems/orbs/eggs/dragonflies, alternatively, they coulld have some bad guy stealing dragon tourist attractions, like rides from dragon shores, some ancient dragon pyramids or something i dont know

ratchet · Nov 06, 2008 8:02 AM

Lol, Fletch.
Well i had a story about A Dark Dragon who wants immortatity and will obtain it if she opens the "gate of sacrea", a secret mystical gate situated in Avalar. So the Dragon is running a muck in Avalar, too hard for Spyro to find let alone defeat. Spyro finds that The gate can also be used to open a secret void universe which The Avalarians plan to use to lock the dark dragon in. To access this, Spyro must get 200 (insert name of main collectable here) and must find these in Sacrea, the world that the Dragon came from in the first place. If the Dragon find the gate and activates it, The whole Spyro universe is afraid that the Dragon's power will lead the worlds to destruction.
I can go into more detail with subplots and stuff but i can't be bothered at the moment.

Jackson117 · Nov 06, 2008 8:08 AM

well anti-spyro maybe i mean they did that in Kingdom hearts (which was a stupid boss battle)

(which way did the heartless go oh he's under me)

RedDragonX · Nov 07, 2008 4:26 AM

Well we will see where the developers go with it. They created the new world so that they had something to base future games from....so I don't think the LOS series is finished quite yet. They might give it a different name or something....but I think the characters are going to remain.

My guess is that we wont see anything until after the movie is released...so until then we can only wonder. That's what we have fanfiction for...

Starscream · Nov 07, 2008 11:27 PM

The new universe has potential I'll give em that......but that potential is then chained to big heavy mass of clishe written story and characters and lazyness in designs(Destroyer looks like a rip of of Iblis from Sonic '06 man)

I personaly think we'll never see(unfortunately) the old school Spyro back and that they'll continue with the new one...

But there are so MANY things that should be improved....
Gameplay first since that's the reason why I buy the games and after playing ANB I didn't even want to buy TEN because I hated the gameplay of ANB....

Also talking about big villains and bosses...

How 'bout a three headed dragon, you know King Ghidorah style....
And we could have like the classic head arguing and having different personalities....
There's something we've not seen in a Spyro game....

TornWings · Nov 08, 2008 1:33 AM

...You bash the game for doing things that have been done before, and then suggest adding in something that has also been done before.

...

Wanna reword that?

Though I'm curious, what didn't you like about the gameplay aspect? Just the general concept or was there something specific?

Fletch_Talon · Nov 08, 2008 9:15 AM

TornWings wrote:

...You bash the game for doing things that have been done before, and then suggest adding in something that has also been done before.
...
Wanna reword that?

Though I'm curious, what didn't you like about the gameplay aspect? Just the general concept or was there something specific?

he's talking about one aspect of the game, one character and one behavioural characteristic

whereas with tLoS the entire "chosen one" vs "mysterious dark being who was also a chosen one" has been more or less done to death, and is especially evident in star wars which being such a popular movie means its very, very noticeable

Starscream · Nov 08, 2008 10:45 AM

TornWings wrote:

...You bash the game for doing things that have been done before, and then suggest adding in something that has also been done before.
...
Wanna reword that?

Though I'm curious, what didn't you like about the gameplay aspect? Just the general concept or was there something specific?

Way to completely miss the point...

The story is badly written and already seen which is why I had a feeling I'm reading a bad fanfic. while playing the game...
If they want to have a serious story make up something original don't rip of other stories!!!
The most popular game stories are the one who were never seen before.
Ad some subplots, ad some interesting , funny, creepy, characters, ad some plot twist that make you jump of seat when you see them.....
When I was watching cutscenes from DotD for the first time I was literally predicting what was going to happen next...and I was right of the time. That is bad in my book....

As for characters yes my idea is seen already but h**l EVERYTHING in LoS series is seen already and people liked it so why not this, it would be cool and new to the series if nothing....

TornWings · Nov 09, 2008 3:49 AM

I still think you're contradicting yourself by saying that, but moving on...

How about answering my question about the gameplay? They may use this general style of gameplay for a while, so if it comes to that, what kind of changes do you want to see?

You've made your opinion of the storyline clear, but you haven't specified your issues with the gameplay, which you said was your foremost concern.

RedDragonX · Nov 09, 2008 5:12 AM

Clearly his indications were based primarily upon the storyline.

The gameplay was ceratinly a modified form of the earlier games...except they did add several more hard gaming elements such as grabing and performing longer combos..which I certainly enjoyed.

The story was a little rough in some spots yes....but considering the fact that EL came onboard to take over this project from Krome..they did a really good job of rounding off the trilogy.

Could they have added more elements into it to create a more in depth experience? Certainly...it's too bad they didn't, because it was the perfect opportunity to....but what are ya gonna do.

The game has been done and it's out...all we can do is look to future games. I hope that EL continues making them..because I was pleased with the gameplay and the graphics. Certain aspects such as the annoyance of the chain sometimes...and the flying element can be improved...but all in all I though it was well done all things considered.

ratchet · Nov 09, 2008 7:32 AM

i've played a bit into DOTD now, and finally the boredom has struck. DOTD seems better than ANB and TEN but sill isn't as good as the originals, no way. But yeah, i dont know who a good developer could be.....
As for gameplay, the gameplay is probably one of the most broken things about TLOS......

John Man 1234 · Nov 09, 2008 2:34 PM

If you both haved played the game and you are not satisfied with it still then well good. Stiil this purple dragon's future is still up in the air.

RedDragonX · Nov 09, 2008 11:10 PM

I am satisfied with the work they did on the game. Those little things that could have been better are always gonna be there....no matter who develops it....but yes the future is still up in the air. A lot is gonna depend on how well this movie will do.....but as for the games themselves...I think they are pretty set on developing more....thanks to the popularity of the LOS reboot.

Agent 9 · Nov 10, 2008 5:50 AM

the old series should return cause it had a better story line
old series spyro- spyro looked a bit better sparx didnt talk it was more fun to play moneybags didnt look retarded it had portals more friendly people and of course AGENT9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smile smile
new series spyro- spyro looks lika an old man sparx talks a real man boring storyline moneybags looked retarded it didnt have portals dull people to talk to and didnt have agent9 mad mad mad mad mad mad mad

Trasher258 · Nov 10, 2008 9:12 PM

Agent 9 wrote:

the old series should return cause it had a better story line
old series spyro- spyro looked a bit better sparx didnt talk it was more fun to play moneybags didnt look retarded it had portals more friendly people and of course AGENT9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
new series spyro- spyro looks lika an old man sparx talks a real man boring storyline moneybags looked retarded it didnt have portals dull people to talk to and didnt have agent9

Uh...ok. :-| Your are almost as trigger happy as Agent 9 is.

I'll put my opinion down for the others to debate over.

Original series to SL: Spyro was mostly getting involved in all sorts of strange and sometimes funny situations. Sparks was ok even when he did talk but I found him a little annoying from time to time. Moneybags was always fun to mess with. (I wish I could done anything more to him) The gameplay was fun, simple, and somewhat challenging but could have improved. Music score is mostly up-beat, sets the mood, and flows with the environment.

TLoS series: Spyro is all about this "special purple dragon" stuff and I just think "I don't really care. Just go do your thing!" What's so special about the color purple anyway? Sparks is much better in personality in my opinion but not as helpful. The gameplay is more challenging than fun and has a repetitive concept. Music score is excellent but focuses more on the action than the environment. I like the other one better.

Spyro Master · Nov 10, 2008 9:37 PM

that basicly sums it all up really casue the new one is repetive because really wouldnt u if u had to do those graphics over and over? and teh old spyro had a charm to it wiv its simplicity and also wot u could do wiv it

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