the world will end cuz of global warming

spyro girl · Aug 07, 2008 5:10 PM

post if u care about the world,i do

chimera · Aug 07, 2008 6:03 PM

I care! Everyone should do what they can!

DragonFireOKN · Aug 07, 2008 6:04 PM

Global warming isn't a proven fact. Don't listen to the news.

FACT: The Earth has experienced warmer times then now.

Humans are damaging the atmosphere but it has not been proven that human activity causes temperatures to rise and more storms.

flame1996 · Aug 07, 2008 6:57 PM

Earth is becoming polluted. Sometimes I feel the air makes me a bit quesy. And beijing in China, that's one of the most polluted cities in the world because of the nuclear power stations and stuff. Hope its ok for the olymics tommorow!

Kamineko · Aug 07, 2008 7:13 PM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

Global warming isn't a proven fact. Don't listen to the news.
FACT: The Earth has experienced warmer times then now.
Humans are damaging the atmosphere but it has not been proven that human activity causes temperatures to rise and more storms.

It hasn't been proven true just like it hasn't been proven true that cigarettes cause lung cancer.

But y'know we DID make that dandy hole in the ozone layer, you know the thing that keeps out all of those UV rays.

Aicebo · Aug 07, 2008 7:16 PM

The world's not going to end. Not around this time, anyway. If it even ends at all, it's likely to be millions of years away.
"Oh help save the earth from global warming, blah". Uh, what are we supposed to do? We don't control the way the earth works.

bmah · Aug 07, 2008 7:24 PM

The world will NOT end because of global warming. Nuff said about this generic debate topic.

A Guy · Aug 07, 2008 7:27 PM

z0MG!!!!!!!!!11111111 GLOBAL WARMING!!!11111!!!!!!!!1oneone!!!1 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111ONEONEONEONE

SpyroFanatic · Aug 07, 2008 7:32 PM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

Global warming isn't a proven fact. Don't listen to the news.
FACT: The Earth has experienced warmer times then now.
Humans are damaging the atmosphere but it has not been proven that human activity causes temperatures to rise and more storms.

Amen.

SavageNymph · Aug 07, 2008 8:29 PM

Aicebo wrote:

The world's not going to end. Not around this time, anyway. If it even ends at all, it's likely to be millions of years away.
"Oh help save the earth from global warming, blah". Uh, what are we supposed to do? We don't control the way the earth works.

I agree with aicebo.There's nothing to worrie about right now but the earth is going into a terrible direction.

Spyrorocks · Aug 08, 2008 5:51 AM

Something to ponder: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp … even-years

cynderfan · Aug 08, 2008 8:04 AM

SR that's now NOT IN THE FUTURE!
So were doomed unless we stop being d**k heads.

reddragon12 · Aug 08, 2008 9:40 AM

the future couls be encredibly hot as we are burning away at the earths atmosphere

Fletch_Talon · Aug 08, 2008 10:09 AM

DragonFireOKN wrote:

Global warming isn't a proven fact. Don't listen to the news.
FACT: The Earth has experienced warmer times then now.
Humans are damaging the atmosphere but it has not been proven that human activity causes temperatures to rise and more storms.

FACT: we should wait until its totally necessary to change habits which are undeniably doing harm to the environment

wait... thats not right

maybe global warming is happening, maybe its not, the fact of the matter is, we know what we are doing is doing harm, so should we wait until it starts doing irrepairable harm before we put a stop to our current habits?

or to phrase it differently

im kicking a child repetitively, i can see its hurting him, but hey its not killing him... yet... so im gonna keep it up for a while... you know... in a couple of kicks time i might think about planning to do something to stop kicking the child but until then im not worried

And beijing in China, that's one of the most polluted cities in the world because of the nuclear power stations and stuff.

one of the advantages of nuclear power is the fact that it doesnt produce as much greenhouse gasses as other energy sources, hence the reason its one of the alternative energy sources currently being considered to replace fossil fuels

corky · Aug 08, 2008 11:08 AM

Who gives? If the world ends at all it will be millions and millions of years away. Anyone immortal here?

Fletch_Talon · Aug 08, 2008 11:17 AM

corky wrote:

Who gives? If the world ends at all it will be millions and millions of years away. Anyone immortal here?

nope but apparently youre psychic, what with being able to see into the future and all, so tell me oh wise and noble oracle, how do we survive the massive increase in temperatures when the atmosphere gets clogged up with too much greenhouse gas. and what do we do when we've destroyed so much of the worlds forests that suddenly we find ourselves with a lot of CO2 and very little O2... you know... the stuff we breath?

not to mention the fact that life as we currently know it will be gone once the worlds oil is gone... its not a renewable resource... but you knew that right?

oh well, i guess we'll live in the dark for the next... how many million years was it?

Hail The Ice Dragon · Aug 08, 2008 1:05 PM

If the world ends anytime,then it will be not now million years away. It will not end just because of global warming! The people on the news say we should help hm..we don't even live near Antartica so how are we going to help? They should get their fat butts up and help and mabye some people from that freezy place should get their butts up too. The polar bears are going excitint though and I love them...I wish I could help but I don't live there.

Paranoia · Aug 08, 2008 1:43 PM

corky wrote:

Who gives? If the world ends at all it will be millions and millions of years away. Anyone immortal here?

Well, there are going to be people in the future. Are you just that selfish that you don't care what happens to them? Of course the world won't end tomorrow. We are talking about the future, and trying to protect the people and animals.

I'm not really sure how I stand on global warming yet. I think even if there is the slightest possibility that it does exist, I think that we should do all we can to stop it. I'm not sure how much a couple of preteens on a Spyro Forum can do about it though. -_-

Phoenix_Flyer · Aug 08, 2008 3:51 PM

Right..... I do care about the future of our world. I certainly hope that it will be a safe place for future generations to live in. However, I am now going to correct a couple of WRONG points.

1. We are not 'burning away' our atmosphere. The only way we could get rid of any of our atmosphere was if we turned off our Earth's gravity and let it float away into space. It takes a hell of a lot of power to overcome gravity and get a shuttle or a rocket into space. And that is something only achieved by man-kind. Nothing in nature can do that. What is presumedly warming the planet up is the 'Greenhouse Effect'. This is caused by a layer of Carbon dioxide forming in the upper stratosphere. This 'blanket' prevents infra red radiation from the Sun radiating back into space after it reaches Earth. The Infra red rays (known as heat to you or me) are then trapped in the atmosphere and warm the atmosphere excessively.

2. Even if man-kind hadn't evolved, creatures like Giant Pandas and Polar Bears would have become extinct in the near-future anyway. They are very specialised creatures. Polar Bears get most of their food on the Sea Ice, mainly seals. They catch them at their air holes or break into the females' dens and eat babies which are buried there. However, if the sea ice were to melt (for more than it already does in the arctic summer anyway) then they would have no means of catching the agile seals and would soon starve. GP's are even more specialised. They only eat bamboo, which grows only in parts of China (and I think a couple of others places in Asia that I can't recall). If the climate changed slightly and the bamboo died then the GP's would soon follow.
Earth's climate fluctuates regularly, this I learned about in Geology last term. The Mass Extinctions of the past, most famously the ones at the end of the Permian (where 90% of marine life became extinct and 70% of land life became extinct, worsr than when the dinosaurs died) and Creataceous Eras, were caused by a rapid change in climate as well as other factors. Its not new. The many species we know of today only account for less than 1% of the total amount of life there has ever been on Earth. It's my personal opinion that its not neccessarily a bad thing if some species become extinct. It allows for new creatures to evolve in their place. Mammals only evolved from little mousey creatures because dinosaurs were wiped out due to the climate making their world go haywire, then a meteorite giving the final kiss-of-death to those few dozen dinosaur species that were left.

3. It has often been quoted by many-a-scientist that even if we chopped down all of the rainforests in the world, we would still have plenty of oxygen for a couple of thousand years more. However, another major thing which trees do is that they catch soot and other similar pollutants with their leaves and turn that into their plant tissue. So if they were all cut down we would sooner die of smoke inhalation than lack of oxygen.

4. As for there are going to be people in the future. That remains to be seen. I think that Humans will have destroyed themselves waaaay before the World actually dies when the Sun engulfs it. We have a couple of billion years more to live on Earth before the Sun gets too large and causes Earth to be inhospitable due to heat like Mercury suffers now. We are growing at such a huge rate we will probably destroy each other way before then. Though saying this there's another reason why we may not live to see the Earth engulfed by the Sun. The Moon does more than just change the tides. It keeps the Earth's orbit regular, allowing for regular seasons, without the Moon our climate would be like that of Mars as Earth would randomly swing on its axis causing huge fluctuations of desert-like conditions one year, then arctic conditions the next. The Moon is drifting away from the Earth by a couple of centimetres a year (this is known to us due to mirror plate-things (can't remember their name) which they installed back in 1969, allowing us to monitor the Moon's distance using lasers. Give it a couple of million years and it will break free of our gravity and we will wobble like a bobble-head.

On the whole I agree with DDR_Maniac. Something needs to be done to slow down the rate of Global Warming so that we can allow ourselves and the animals of our World to adapt (well those that can anyway). Though what can we do really? While we can't make a huge dent in the impact of Global Warming (which I prefer to call Climate Change as some places, like the UK, are more likely to cool), we can all do little things like walk more (or take public transport) and go in the shower instead of the bath etc. Radically changing our lives will not help the Polar Bears nor the people in the Third World. However, if we all do a little bit to help then it may well make a difference.

bmah · Aug 08, 2008 4:29 PM

You should go into Earth sciences, Phoenix. Environmental geology or maybe even paleo, heh.

In regards to your first point, yes, we're not burning up the atmosphere. I think people are getting mixed up by the burning of a hole in the ozone layer, which is a small part of the atmosphere.

Also, DDR Maniac has a point, but I don't think the human timeframe will extend to millions of years.

A Guy · Aug 08, 2008 4:36 PM

As long as the majority of people are adopting the "One person won't make a difference, so why should I inconvenience myself to no effect?" logic, there will not be any major changes until it is either easier and cheaper to use more green products, or the government steps in.

bmah · Aug 08, 2008 4:41 PM

I think people are wanting to see a physical difference in changing their lifestyles and habits in a more environmentally-friendlier way. Since changes are not so immediate, people indeed adopt that attitude.

Spyro_fan55 · Aug 08, 2008 4:44 PM

Global Warming is a myth... like DFOKN said... it's not proven.

Phoenix_Flyer · Aug 08, 2008 4:46 PM

I'm hoping to go into Zoology with Animal Behaviour at Bangor University in Wales. I have to get 3 B's at A-level with one being Biology and one other science. Things to do with animals and the environment are one of the things I'm good at! big_smile

Yeah, people seem to forget that burning a hole in the Ozone layer and Climate Change are almost completely unrelated. The ozone layer is made up of ozone (O3) and blocks most of the higher frequencies of Ultraviolet, though it does let some through which is what causes sunburn. It was caused by the release of CFC's (chloro fluoro carbons) into the atmosphere. CFC's are found in fridges and aerosols as they are very good coolants. But when they are released after the fridges are thrown away they are energised by microwaves (another frequency of light) as they travel up the atmosphere which causes them to become free radicals (a molecule with an unpaired electron). They then reach the ozone layer (after about 40 years) and break the ozone down into oxygen and another free radical. This other free radical then breaks down more ozone and so on. The only way to stop a free radical is to make it react with another free radical, but there's a problem with that though I can't remember it because its Summer and its escaped me. Repulsive forces or something. Thing is though, the hole is just about colsed up apparently so this problem is just about resolved.
I think the main reason that people get it confused is because the holes were over the poles, where the atmosphere is thinnest. I hope I didn't get them confused in my exam in June though...... It was a big question.......

Stormy · Aug 08, 2008 5:18 PM

Spyro_fan55 wrote:

Global Warming is a myth... like DFOKN said... it's not proven.

[sub]Woah, woah, back up. It's not proven, therefore it's a myth? Where do you people come up with this logic? -__-

It's quite possible that it exists, actually; most scientists agree that it does, or so I've heard.

Global warming or not, it is a fact that humans are damaging the environment, and there's really no way anyone can dispute that. [/sub]

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