Do you think that Bible verses can be used in the story What Bible verses

Adam Thurman · Jul 30, 2008 12:17 AM

I think this will be an interesting thing for any one to see if any one would like to post what they think. Why or why wouldn't it be fitting to put in some memory verses.

[glow=orange:8a9562184a] Philippians 1;29-30[/glow:8a9562184a] I think fits because Spyro and Cinder had both suffered and Spyro is trying to get Cynder to understand that no one blames her that he is suffering as well for she is not the only one with something to worry about.[glow=cyan:8a9562184a] 2Corrinthians 4;18[/glow:8a9562184a] Another good one Cynder is looking at the trouble she is surrounded by too much and needs to look forward to what she can do to help Spyro to change things for the better.[glow=cyan:8a9562184a] Genesis 45;4-5[/glow:8a9562184a] Spyro forgives Cynder for what she did to him and for all she has done.[glow=orange:8a9562184a]Genesis 14;14-15[/glow:8a9562184a] for once Cynder was captured he made plans to try to find her and he does.

Fletch_Talon · Jul 30, 2008 5:03 AM

1st of all, if youre going to quote verses, actually quote them, many (id hazard to say most) christians havnt read everything in the bible and very few non christians will have read it extensively, and Im sure not gonna be bothered going to look up the verses youve mentioned

secondly how about

an eye for an eye
the dark master killed lots of dragons so now spyro is killing him and everyone that works for him

oh and

thou shalt not kill
because everyone kills stuff

wait a minute... do they contradict each other?

dragon protector x · Jul 30, 2008 5:34 AM

Yea....useing things of religion is bad...I wouldnt use religous things on a public forum. It could start a flamm war....or worse offend some one...

Spyrorocks · Jul 30, 2008 5:40 AM

I don't see how people can be offended by the discussion of religion, only when their religious beliefs are being insulted or them personally.

Fletch_Talon · Jul 30, 2008 5:40 AM

dragon protector x wrote:

Yea....useing things of religion is bad...I wouldnt use religous things on a public forum. It could start a flamm war....or worse offend some one...

i think a flame war would be worse, people get offended in flame wars and there is little substance to the debate, when people are just offended its often because they cant possibly believe that anyone would disagree with the bible/koran/tora/kama sutra etc.

spyromaster330 · Jul 30, 2008 6:46 AM

How could discussing religion offend someone? thats like saying that we'd better not discuss Spyro because it might offend someone.

bmah · Jul 30, 2008 7:17 AM

I think dragon protector x is just jumping the gun. No need to overreact and make presumptions. Anything about religion can be talked about, as long as we do so respectfully. And knowing the people here, I'm sure pretty much everyone is decent about this.
(BTW, Doppelgangergang also tended to "jump the gun" a lot on situations that ended up not being conflictive at all.)

There's NOTHING offensive about what Adam Thurman posted. If Christianity conflicts for whatever reason with you, you shouldn't post at all here. The thread isn't intended to offend anyone.

Thundersoul · Jul 30, 2008 7:22 AM

I don't gett why people feel to put religion too everything, look there is no religion ( real ones at least) in the game so please please please dont start bringing it up. I deal with enough of it at work tongue

Taco Godess · Jul 30, 2008 7:32 AM

Thundersoul wrote:

I don't gett why people feel to put religion too everything, look there is no religion ( real ones at least) in the game so please please please dont start bringing it up. I deal with enough of it at work

Same.

Fletch_Talon · Jul 30, 2008 11:34 AM

bmah wrote:

I think dragon protector x is just jumping the gun. No need to overreact and make presumptions. Anything about religion can be talked about, as long as we do so respectfully. And knowing the people here, I'm sure pretty much everyone is decent about this.
(BTW, Doppelgangergang also tended to "jump the gun" a lot on situations that ended up not being conflictive at all.)
There's NOTHING offensive about what Adam Thurman posted. If Christianity conflicts for whatever reason with you, you shouldn't post at all here. The thread isn't intended to offend anyone.

the problem is when it comes to belief systems people will often get offended very easily, ive experienced it elsewhere.

the reason is, any discussion regarding religion will have someone (ie. me) asking how you can believe in something when you have no proof, religious people then generally respond with "i know it in my heart" or something of that sort, atheists and agnostics being a bit more logical than that will argue that you cant know something without proof, then religious people generally get offended

the original post here wasnt offensive in any way, i think DPX was stating that discussion resulting from this topic is likely to end in tears, also i would not compare his behaviour to Doppel's and i fail to understand why you would do so

Spyroflamesredsbum · Jul 30, 2008 12:13 PM

*shuvs hand up in the air*
....uuuhhh.....>_> ....<_<.........am i the only one that agrees that the origianal post of Adam Thurman is a good idea big_smile
*steps away from all the arguements*
IVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT SOMETIMES DAT MEANINGFUL EVRSES IN DA BIBLE COULD FIT WITHS PYRO = D
Hoomg kooooooooolio. YAYz.
GREAT PLAN ADAM 8D

bmah · Jul 30, 2008 4:03 PM

Fletch_Talon wrote:

the problem is when it comes to belief systems people will often get offended very easily, ive experienced it elsewhere.
the reason is, any discussion regarding religion will have someone (ie. me) asking how you can believe in something when you have no proof, religious people then generally respond with "i know it in my heart" or something of that sort, atheists and agnostics being a bit more logical than that will argue that you cant know something without proof, then religious people generally get offended
the original post here wasnt offensive in any way, i think DPX was stating that discussion resulting from this topic is likely to end in tears, also i would not compare his behaviour to Doppel's and i fail to understand why you would do so

Don't get mixed up with the things that Doppel's infamous for. I'm not comparing dpx to that level. Just saying that both tend to jump to premature conclusions. If there's no issue to a situation, don't try to bring up the possibility of having one.

Anyways, simply by reading the first post of the thread, you can tell that the conversation is directed towards people with a certain religion. It's more than obvious that it's not catering to atheists/agnostics or people with other beliefs. If you are in any way offended, don't post - you know people have beliefs and are set in their ways with those beliefs. As such, you're hitting yourself against a brick wall if you try to counteract the thread with a different belief. Take it or leave it.
With some common sense, you can tell what threads are suitable and unsuitable for you to post. That way, it's easily possible to make religious topics and have a good time too. Have you been to a site that had a debate forum? This isn't unusual.
So I understand where DPX is getting at, but it's still IMO a premature response.

On-topic: could you please show us the actual references so I could compare the Bible's story to that of Spyro's, Adam? I'm not Christian but I would like to know anyhow.

Adam Thurman · Jul 30, 2008 5:45 PM

I did not want to type them out because they are long but since you guys ask, i will be very happy to quote them.

Philippians 1;29-30
For you have been given not only the privilege of trusting in Christ but also the privilege of suffering for him. We are in this fight together. You have seen me suffer for him in the past, and you know that i am still midst of this great struggle

2Corrinthians 4;18
So we don't look at our troubles we can see right now; rather we look forward to what we have not yet seen. For the troubles we see will soon be over, but the joys to come forever.

Genesis 45;4-5
"Come over here", he said. So they came closer. and he said again, "I am Joseph, your brother whom you sold into Egypt. But don't be angry with yourselves that you did this to me, for god did it.

Genesis 14;14-15
When Abram learned that Lot Had been captured, he called together men born into his household, 318 of them all. he chased after Kedraorlaomer's army until he caught up with them in Dan.

I won't say anything else because i want to know what you guys think before i say anything.

Taco Godess · Jul 30, 2008 6:02 PM

I'm not even sure why I replied to this topic in the first place. I mean, I hate talking about my beliefs, and I hate talking about other people's beliefs too.

What I don't get, though, is why people have to put religion into everything. It just.... bugs me when they do.

Aicebo · Jul 30, 2008 6:45 PM

Taco Godess wrote:

I'm not even sure why I replied to this topic in the first place. I mean, I hate talking about my beliefs, and I hate talking about other people's beliefs too.
What I don't get, though, is why people have to put religion into everything. It just.... bugs me when they do.

Same here.
I get uncomfortable on the subject on religion...

Spyrorocks · Jul 30, 2008 7:00 PM

If you are uncomfortable with the topic, no one is forcing you to read it.

Aicebo, I know you are a moderator and thus must moderate such threads, but if you don't want to read this one then don't I can moderate it myself.

bmah · Jul 30, 2008 7:29 PM

bmah wrote:

If you are in any way offended or uncomfortable, don't post - you know people have beliefs and are set in their ways with those beliefs.

This.

Umm, and interesting finds, Adam. Coincidences, methinks.

Paranoia · Jul 30, 2008 8:08 PM

I think that if you think hard enough, almost any story could be related to religion. Interesting ideas though. I am a Catholic, and wouldn't mind considering some of the things you said.

Again, like bmah said, if you're uncomfortable, fell free not to post. You don't have to.

Spyroflamesredsbum · Jul 31, 2008 1:00 AM

HEY WOOOAAH 8D
those verses AAARRREE reeaally good 8D
THEY SUIT THE GAME SPYRO awesome find 8D

Meepster · Dec 11, 2008 4:06 AM

Last night I read a verse that could pro'ably be used in a story:

"Each heart knows its own bitterness, and no one else can share its joy." Proverbs 14:10.

I thought it sounded pretty cool. Anyone else?

cooldude22345 · Dec 13, 2008 1:56 AM

Fletch_Talon wrote:

the problem is when it comes to belief systems people will often get offended very easily, ive experienced it elsewhere.
the reason is, any discussion regarding religion will have someone (ie. me) asking how you can believe in something when you have no proof, religious people then generally respond with "i know it in my heart" or something of that sort, atheists and agnostics being a bit more logical than that will argue that you cant know something without proof, then religious people generally get offended
the original post here wasnt offensive in any way, i think DPX was stating that discussion resulting from this topic is likely to end in tears, also i would not compare his behaviour to Doppel's and i fail to understand why you would do so

Tell me, fletch. How did the universe come to be, besides simply saying the big bang?

RaidonMakoto · Dec 13, 2008 2:18 AM

Epic revival, amirite?

Bible Codes are bs. People have found 'coded messages' in Moby *bleep* as well. Its all just people making connections where they aren't there. For example, you know they didn't 'predict' 9/11 with Bible Codes until AFTER it happened?

cooldude22345 · Dec 13, 2008 3:31 AM

...What do you mean epic revival?

I don't trully believe in bible codes unless proven otherwise. They're not reliable to most people.

But I do believe in the book of revelations.

Fletch_Talon · Dec 16, 2008 1:32 PM

cooldude22345 wrote:

Fletch_Talon wrote:
the problem is when it comes to belief systems people will often get offended very easily, ive experienced it elsewhere.
the reason is, any discussion regarding religion will have someone (ie. me) asking how you can believe in something when you have no proof, religious people then generally respond with "i know it in my heart" or something of that sort, atheists and agnostics being a bit more logical than that will argue that you cant know something without proof, then religious people generally get offended
the original post here wasnt offensive in any way, i think DPX was stating that discussion resulting from this topic is likely to end in tears, also i would not compare his behaviour to Doppel's and i fail to understand why you would do so
Tell me, fletch. How did the universe come to be, besides simply saying the big bang?

I don't know, and unlike the majority of religions (and the occasional stupid atheist) I have the guts to come out and admit that.

I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows, and its likely no living person ever will, when I die and should I meet some form of higher power who tells me how the universe came to be, THEN I will claim to know.

cooldude22345 · Dec 17, 2008 12:12 AM

I would post a video here, but I'm sure nobody would want to watch it... Oh well neutral

Well fletch, should we really discuss religion for such a long time again, or end it right here to prevent some flame war?

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