Who is the most overrated character in the series?

Stormy · Aug 04, 2008 11:21 PM

Fletch_Talon wrote:

Ignitus's #1fan wrote:
There aren't any Ignitus fantards, so there is no reason to create it. If that was meant as an offense towards me, it was a very pathetic attempt at it.
because everythings about you isnt it? funnily enough i would have meant it as an insult if i hadnt posted it before reading your uppity little post in the other thread
and apparently there are ignitus fantards, at least one, im talking to him now, youre every bit as bad, if not worse than "cyntards" at least they dont try to bring a debate about video game characters into the realm of morals and ethics, and they dont take everything said about cynder as an insult aimed at themselves

[sub]Um, no offense, Fletch_talon, but this argument is getting ridiculous.

1. How is Ignitus overrated? I've barely seen any Ignitus fans around here. 0__o Sometimes I swear half of you don't even know what the word "overrated" means. -__-
2. If I made a sick joke about one of your favorite game characters, would you like it? That doesn't make him a fantard.
3. You're also baselessly insulting him. What about him makes him a "fantard"? He likes the character, so what? A "fantard," as you well know, is someone who is unreasonable about their favorite character, and what has he done to give you that impression? If you haven't noticed, we're all posting on a Spyro fansite here, analyzing Spyro characters, which is about as fantard-y as it gets. What's different about doing it to Ignitus?
4. Of course he's going to assume the comment was directed at him. What other Ignitus fans do you see here? -__-
5. Get off your own high horse before telling others to do the same.

Now if we could please stop talking about this, that would be wonderful. Some of us are trying to have reasonable discussions here.

Anyway, I'd be an originaltard, in that case. XD[/sub]

Ar Tonelico · Aug 05, 2008 2:05 AM

ummm.... Im just roaming, but I second what Stormy said...

sure has been an...interesting read, these past few pages, but I really think you should tone it down, Talon. you're being....really immature.

Fletch_Talon · Aug 05, 2008 2:12 AM

[sub]Um, no offense, Fletch_talon, but this argument is getting ridiculous.

1. How is Ignitus overrated? I've barely seen any Ignitus fans around here. 0__o Sometimes I swear half of you don't even know what the word "overrated" means. -__-
- ive seen ignitus fans aroud, not as much, but they absolutely love him, similar to cynder fans

2. If I made a sick joke about one of your favorite game characters, would you like it? That doesn't make him a fantard.
- you might have a point if i had actually made the joke at the expense of the character, but the joke was once more a stab against fanfic writers with twisted sexual themes in their writing, theyre one of my pet hates as far as the internet goes
-also frankly i would give a crap if someone made a sick joke about a character cuz id take it the way it was said, as a joke

3. You're also baselessly insulting him. What about him makes him a "fantard"? He likes the character, so what? A "fantard," as you well know, is someone who is unreasonable about their favorite character, and what has he done to give you that impression? If you haven't noticed, we're all posting on a Spyro fansite here, analyzing Spyro characters, which is about as fantard-y as it gets. What's different about doing it to Ignitus?
- if youve noticed the last couple of postsi have referred to myself as an originaltard, i dont see what is so insulting about the -tard label, it seems to represent more than anything a devoted fan, which I#1F has admitted to being, i dont think fantards are necessarily unreasonable, or that they "bash" other things/characters its like the word fanboy, the only way it can be considered an insult is if you take it as one, if someone calls me an old season fanboy, ill agree, they can have their definition of the word, and ill have mine

4. Of course he's going to assume the comment was directed at him. What other Ignitus fans do you see here? -__-
- again, an insult is insulting only if you let it effect you
- again, i have seen other ignitus fans, and they seem to be fans of ignitus purely cuz hes an awesome fire element dragon

5. Get off your own high horse before telling others to do the same.
- this has been discussed, if you want to tell me how i was taking a moral highground oer anyone please do, as it stands i was simply insulted by a word (tasteless) which gave me the impression of elitism from I#1F, we've since realised there was a misunderstanding regarding the interpretation of the word.

TheManiacOnWheels · Aug 05, 2008 3:00 AM

*Face-palm*
If this discussion has to happen, could it at least be restrained to ONE thread instead of spreading across two? There's no reason to ruin two topics for the sake of this dispute.
Ignitus's#1fan isn't a fantard, he's only defending his favourite character, as Stormy said.
Anyways, I'm a LoS-Spyrotard and proud of it big_smile .

Lanara · Aug 05, 2008 5:52 AM

Aicebo wrote:

To be honest, Cynder is my least favorite dragon in TLoS series.
Sowwy Cynder fans. ._.

You just gave me the guts to say that XD I'm prepared for a whole bunch of frowny faces. D:

Ignitus's #1fan · Aug 05, 2008 8:02 PM

I'm afraid I'll have to third what Lanara and Aicebo said >.>. Don't shoot!

To Stormy and Aang(ManiacOnWheels) : Thank you, I couldn't have said it better myself.

To Fletch_Talon: Ignitus doesn't have that many fans, however, the few he does have are devoted, I'll admit that. However, they're nothing like most Cynder fans, I'm afraid. I won't go beyond that.

My definition of "fantard" is different from yours. By "fantard" you seem to mean "devoted fan" - that's not an accurate description. -tard is obviously something negative. Say devoted fan, not fantard. Fantards are the bad fans who obsess about a character to the point where they are annoying and unbearable. I think you can admit that Cynder does seem to have quite a few such fans, right? That's why I took your calling me a fantard as an offense. I'm a devoted fan of Ignitus. I do not deny that at all, in fact I outright admit it. However, fantard doesn't mean devoted fan. Fantard is an insulting term by my definition of it. That's why I didn't take it well - it appears this was simply even more miscommunication.

However, on the other thread, you retracted your use of the word, and so I'm no longer angry about it smile . Let's get back to the topic. Or, um... maybe we should let the topic die. This topic is bound for trouble. Fans of characters will get upset.

A Guy · Aug 05, 2008 11:27 PM

Whenever opinions are shared, people WILL get upset.

TheManiacOnWheels · Aug 06, 2008 1:27 AM

Yeah...Maybe we SHOULD kill this topic.

cynderfire · Aug 22, 2008 8:07 AM

its cynder. too mush pple love her!
lol i thought it was spyro untill i checked yt. :-P

cynderfire · Aug 22, 2008 8:10 AM

yep defenately cynder

Fletch_Talon · Aug 22, 2008 8:36 AM

really bad "nettiquette" to double post, especially if its something that could be insulting and youre just rephrasing the same sentence

as for me, i think that as of the tLoS series, Sparx is pretty overrated, from what i hear he doesnt serve any purpose anymore, he had playable levels in spyro 3 and even spyro 1 and 2 had him there as a life indicator

now he's kinda a background character

correct me if im wrong of course, as said elsewhere, ive never played them (except ANB briefly on DS)

A Guy · Aug 22, 2008 12:08 PM

You are completely right Fletch, he no longer serves any ingame purpose in TLoS.

ontels · Aug 22, 2008 7:10 PM

I think sparx does because when you think of it he may not have a playble role but neither does ignitus and sparx happens to have the most lines

Ignitus's #1fan · Aug 22, 2008 9:38 PM

Sparx is completely useless to both the gameplay and the plot. He may be a main character, but he is completely dispensable. Delete him from the plotline and the only difference is that there's less humor and Spyro was "raised as an only child". He quite literally does nothing but accompany Spyro and make jokes.

Ignitus, on the other hand, is completely crucial to the plot, even if he does have less lines than Sparx(though he has more lines than most of the other characters - probably third in terms of lines, in ANB at least).

Don't get me wrong though - Sparx is a funny character, and I honestly like him. I'm just being sincere on his relevance to the story and plotline. Don't take it as bashing. And I honestly find him to be much better than old series Sparx. Old Sparx had virtually no personality till YotD and even then was just annoying, at least to me XD.

Fletch, I think you should play console ANB, honestly. I loved that game. I realize you may be hesitant because you prefer the old series, but still... I think it's worth a shot... but hey, that's just my opinion smile . Or have you seen all the cutscenes on youtube? If you don't want to play the game, you can always do that. I dunno, I just feel the need to recommend at least the plot to you, that's all big_smile .

spyromaster330 · Aug 23, 2008 3:57 AM

Ignitus's #1fan wrote:

And to Spyromaster - Ignitus isn't overrated at all. Try looking around. He's hardly appreciated enough, especially in comparison to the armies of fanatics Cynder has. So don't say he's overrated - because he isn't. I don't see how he has too many fans - his fanbase is microscopic in comparison to Cynder's. At least his fans are GOOD fans, I'm grateful for that. Again, if anything, he's underrated.

I think that Ignitus is overated. I mean look at his fan club in the fan clubs board. How many pages of posts does it have? Alot. I'll tell you who is underrated: Volteer. He doesnt have nearly as many fans as he should. He is a much better character than Ignitus in my opinion. Though i willl agree with you that Ignitus has a small fanbase compared to Cynders. Cynder is a very overated character.

Fletch_Talon · Aug 23, 2008 7:54 AM

Ignitus's #1fan wrote:

Sparx is completely useless to both the gameplay and the plot. He may be a main character, but he is completely dispensable. Delete him from the plotline and the only difference is that there's less humor and Spyro was "raised as an only child". He quite literally does nothing but accompany Spyro and make jokes.
Ignitus, on the other hand, is completely crucial to the plot, even if he does have less lines than Sparx(though he has more lines than most of the other characters - probably third in terms of lines, in ANB at least).
Don't get me wrong though - Sparx is a funny character, and I honestly like him. I'm just being sincere on his relevance to the story and plotline. Don't take it as bashing. And I honestly find him to be much better than old series Sparx. Old Sparx had virtually no personality till YotD and even then was just annoying, at least to me XD.
Fletch, I think you should play console ANB, honestly. I loved that game. I realize you may be hesitant because you prefer the old series, but still... I think it's worth a shot... but hey, that's just my opinion . Or have you seen all the cutscenes on youtube? If you don't want to play the game, you can always do that. I dunno, I just feel the need to recommend at least the plot to you, that's all .

despite my distaste for the series reboot, i do actually want to play ANB on a console, however i dont think it was released on the only console i own (Wii), and i havnt been able to find the gamecube version, and i really dont want to start with the second in the series

ontels · Aug 23, 2008 10:45 AM

dont worry fletch I just cheked and you can get ANB for the GC

Fletch_Talon · Aug 23, 2008 11:22 AM

ontels wrote:

dont worry fletch I just cheked and you can get ANB for the GC

i know but like i said, i cant find it anywhere, id have to buy it online or something

ontels · Aug 23, 2008 9:34 PM

well thats not to bad I allways buy stuff of amazon.com its fast and reliable try there

Gwenio · Aug 23, 2008 10:16 PM

(Ignitus's #1fan asked me to post this for him as the forum would not let him.)

Spyromaster: While the Ignitus club does have many posts, note that only a few people post. He hardly has fans, only a few ones who are devoted. Look around the fandom and see how popular or appreciated he is. He isn't overrated at all, if anything he's underrated.

As for Volteer, him being better than Ignitus is just what you stated it to be : your opinion. Frankly, he's my second favorite character, I like him a lot. I just love Ignitus more. Plus, it's rather inevitable - Ignitus's role in the plot is crucial, Volteer's is rather tiny. I have no problem with your preferring Volteer over Ignitus, though(some of my best friends like both Ignitus and Volteer, but Volteer more), but you're very wrong about Ignitus being overrated.

Fletch: Well, I was gonna say the GC version when you said Wii, but looks like you can't find it... so yeah, I guess online is the best bet. Sorry, dude, can't help you .

spyromaster330 · Aug 24, 2008 8:29 AM

Gwenio wrote:

(Ignitus's #1fan asked me to post this for him as the forum would not let him.)
Spyromaster: While the Ignitus club does have many posts, note that only a few people post. He hardly has fans, only a few ones who are devoted. Look around the fandom and see how popular or appreciated he is. He isn't overrated at all, if anything he's underrated.
As for Volteer, him being better than Ignitus is just what you stated it to be : your opinion. Frankly, he's my second favorite character, I like him a lot. I just love Ignitus more. Plus, it's rather inevitable - Ignitus's role in the plot is crucial, Volteer's is rather tiny. I have no problem with your preferring Volteer over Ignitus, though(some of my best friends like both Ignitus and Volteer, but Volteer more), but you're very wrong about Ignitus being overrated.

You make alot of good points. But still, I dont like Ignitus that much so for that reason i just find him overated even though he probably isnt really. I wouldnt say he is underated though.

ontels · Aug 24, 2008 4:35 PM

I dont rally mind what ignitus's role is I just think he looks and sounds awesome big_smile

Ignitus's #1fan · Aug 24, 2008 8:57 PM

spyromaster330 wrote:

Gwenio wrote:
(Ignitus's #1fan asked me to post this for him as the forum would not let him.)
Spyromaster: While the Ignitus club does have many posts, note that only a few people post. He hardly has fans, only a few ones who are devoted. Look around the fandom and see how popular or appreciated he is. He isn't overrated at all, if anything he's underrated.
As for Volteer, him being better than Ignitus is just what you stated it to be : your opinion. Frankly, he's my second favorite character, I like him a lot. I just love Ignitus more. Plus, it's rather inevitable - Ignitus's role in the plot is crucial, Volteer's is rather tiny. I have no problem with your preferring Volteer over Ignitus, though(some of my best friends like both Ignitus and Volteer, but Volteer more), but you're very wrong about Ignitus being overrated.
You make alot of good points. But still, I dont like Ignitus that much so for that reason i just find him overated even though he probably isnt really. I wouldnt say he is underated though.

Well, forum's working for me again. It said something about not allowing Tor proxies o.O. Whatever. Thanks for posting for me, Gwenio smile !

Well, you can't really say he's overrated when he has so few fans, even if you don't like him. And honestly, I really think he's underrated, especially compared to other characters. People don't pay nearly enough attention to his part of the story, especially his bond with Spyro.

@ Ontels: Hehe, I agree, but I also love his role in the story as Spyro's father figure smile . I also love his personality.

Oh, and Fletch, one more thing - I agree with what you said, you really shouldn't start off with TEN. I haven't played it either(lack of Wii and PS2 sad ), but I know this much: Starting off with the second part is confusing, plus a lot of the characters that were given attention in ANB(the guardians, especially Ignitus) were rather ignored in that game. Plus, I found ANB's plot to be far superior to TEN's, if only because it gave more character development. So yeah, I wouldn't recommend playing TEN until you've played ANB.

spyromaster330 · Aug 25, 2008 3:49 AM

"Ignitus's #1fan[
Well, you can't really say he's overrated when he has so few fans, even if you don't like him. And honestly, I really think he's underrated, especially compared to other characters. People don't pay nearly enough attention to his part of the story, especially his bond with Spyro[/quote wrote:

I dont like him much so i think he's overated, even though he has so few fans. I usually wouldnt think hes overated because of the number of fans he has, but because most of those fans are really obsessed with Ignitus, it makes me think that he's overateted

Thorn · Aug 25, 2008 5:01 PM

Cynder is easily the most overated character, dont get me wrong I really like the character but her fanbase is massive yikes

@Spyromaster330

I agree with you about Volteer (hes clearly the best) but I disagree with you over Ignitus being overrated hes only got a handfull of devoted fans.

But Volteer still rules all big_smile and deserves Cynder style worship.

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