If Youtube eventually becomes too copyrighted, or worse, if videos become pay-per-view, no one would use it. Similarly, if torrent sites become pay-per-torrent file, no one would use that, and new torrent sites with free downloads would just pop up. Companies that try to shut down such sites are just playing whack-a-mole. It's not a very productive use of time.

It's not just Warner Music Group; it's Universal Music Group, too. I remember when I made WMM Spyro videos and I got around 30 of them removed, mostly UMG owners. I have a little bit better program now, and it has a decent audio editor, so I change the pitch to bypass the filter.

Really? I didn't know you could do a thing about it.

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I like to collect CDs, often because of the art and having the lyrics booklet, along just having it itself makes me feel good for some reason.

So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.

Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time

"Videos" like this are the reason youtube sucks so badly as far as content goes.  Hell, I'd say crappy slide-show videos are better than lyric videos.

Youtube is a site made for video, not music, so when youtube has crap like this on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk

Then taking it down is no big deal.  It's not what youtube is for and if you're getting all bent out of shape over it go to a site that's actually made for providing you with your hip underground musical tastes you starving artist types take so seriously.

As for spending music to support the band: albums make up just about ZERO of a band's income.  All the money you spend on albums goes toward the label.  Bands make the majority of their money from concert sales and good ol' fashioned corporate whoring.  Not to mention if they really want to make money they can get a real job.

You're right, those videos deserve to come down. It's just when they take video down just because it has background music of something...

In your face, WMG.

I like to collect CDs, often because of the art and having the lyrics booklet, along just having it itself makes me feel good for some reason.

So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.

Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time

"Videos" like this are the reason youtube sucks so badly as far as content goes.  Hell, I'd say crappy slide-show videos are better than lyric videos.

Youtube is a site made for video, not music, so when youtube has crap like this on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk

Then taking it down is no big deal.  It's not what youtube is for and if you're getting all bent out of shape over it go to a site that's actually made for providing you with your hip underground musical tastes you starving artist types take so seriously.

As for spending music to support the band: albums make up just about ZERO of a band's income.  All the money you spend on albums goes toward the label.  Bands make the majority of their money from concert sales and good ol' fashioned corporate whoring.  Not to mention if they really want to make money they can get a real job.

I also have to say that NOT ALL MAINSTREAM STUFF IS THAT BAD! Are you judging by what you see on MTV and other music channels? That isn't the ONLY music around, you know.

I think you're giving crappy slide-show music videos on youtube way too much credit.  I sincerely doubt people hearing songs on youtube has created any record sales for them, especially since probably 90% of people who would listen to the music would just download it anyway.

No one pays for music anymore, 'cept tossers.

YouTube is the reason i like 20+ of the songs/bands i do now. i listen to a lot of underground metal bands which aren't that easy to find in the first place, much less in the US where it's all mainstream pop/rap/etc, and YouTube's a good place to find their stuff. and illegally downloading sucks. people should support the bands they like. bands work very hard on music. the least people could do is spend a couple bucks to help support them.

@ below. i'm not saying [all] mainstream is bad. and i'm not saying it's the only music here. it's just the only music i hear anywhere.

So, when did people ONLY use songs in "Music Videos"? Even actual official videos have been taken off of smaller record companies' official channels, simple lyric videos, and even just music in the background of other videos.

Plus, not every unofficial non-profit video is a slideshow; even though I don't have a program like Adobe Premiere right now, I'm working with another decent program and when I get the chance, I might want to use real band footage given to me and put together real music videos, getting paid for it. I've volunteered to a few small bands I know of to make some videos for them for free if they send me anything to work with...haven't really gotten anywhere yet, though...but that's alright, takes time