Fletch_Talon wrote:

RaidonMakoto wrote:

I'm not your garden variety troll, saphira.

you big silly, gnomes live in gardens, trolls live under bridges

I happen to be the troll that lives under the Golden Gate Bridge.

lol, i would have thought the troll real estate companies would have split it up into blocks, surely there would be enough room for at least a dozen trolls under there.

or is it like a farming property? do you breed billy goats gruff?

RaidonMakoto wrote:

saphira17 wrote:

It isn't the only reason either. So, RaidonMakoto, in order to make ones self feel good, one must hurt others to do so. **sarcastic laughs**

I'm not your garden variety troll, saphira.

you big silly, gnomes live in gardens, trolls live under bridges

I happen to be the troll that lives under the Golden Gate Bridge.

saphira17 wrote:

It isn't the only reason either. So, RaidonMakoto, in order to make ones self feel good, one must hurt others to do so. **sarcastic laughs**

I'm not your garden variety troll, saphira.

you big silly, gnomes live in gardens, trolls live under bridges

It isn't the only reason either. So, RaidonMakoto, in order to make ones self feel good, one must hurt others to do so. **sarcastic laughs**

I'm not your garden variety troll, saphira.

but in saying that, there are people who find happiness in the pain/unhappiness of others, for example, people often make other people feel bad in order to feel better themselves

all im saying is that its not really a black/white kinda thing, like most topics there are areas of grey

It isn't the only reason either. So, RaidonMakoto, in order to make ones self feel good, one must hurt others to do so. **sarcastic laughs**

Not exactly. I do some running, and it makes me feel good without hurting anyone.

Fletch_Talon wrote:

woah good spotting a guy, 1337 (leet) gems for the win

and as for the selfishness thing, i have to agree with sapphira, selfishness is often more than a wish to make yourself happy, it becomes (whether intentionally or not) a disregard for the happiness of others, meaning youre more likely to do something that will upset someone else.

And, may I say, who cares? Self-preservation is my ultimate goal. Not everything that is good for yourself is morally reprehensible, and it isn't a sufficient reason for *Bleep*/bisexuality being wrong.

its agood thing that was never the point i was making then isnt it.

i never said anything about bisexuality being wrong, and i certainly didnt do so using "its selfish" as a reason

the point i was making is thatits just as unhealthy to live a completely selfish life, as it is to live a completely selfless one, like pretty much everything in life you need balance, you should be assertive, but not aggressive; flexible, but not submissive.

basically someone thats too selfless is going to spend life as a doormat, and someone that is too selfish is going to end up alone and unhappy, because thats what happens to *bleep*s

and for the record, ive not made any claims in regards to how selfish anyone here is, i dont know any of you personally so i cant make that judgment, all i can do is state what are in my eyes facts, and i think youll find that society as a whole (not just religious groups or those who consider themselves, more moral than thou) would agree.

woah good spotting a guy, 1337 (leet) gems for the win

and as for the selfishness thing, i have to agree with sapphira, selfishness is often more than a wish to make yourself happy, it becomes (whether intentionally or not) a disregard for the happiness of others, meaning youre more likely to do something that will upset someone else.

And, may I say, who cares? Self-preservation is my ultimate goal. Not everything that is good for yourself is morally reprehensible, and it isn't a sufficient reason for *bleep*/bisexuality being wrong.

and as for the selfishness thing, i have to agree with sapphira, selfishness is often more than a wish to make yourself happy, it becomes (whether intentionally or not) a disregard for the happiness of others, meaning youre more likely to do something that will upset someone else.

being selfish has its limits though, you have to have a happy medium, too selfless and you leave nothing for yourself, too selfish and nobody will like you, and rightly so

Well being selfish is pretty much doing what makes you happy, and keeping yourself happy is what life should be about.

If helping other people, like people you care about, makes you feel good, then you should do that.  But even selflessness is fueled by selfishness.