Absolutley not.

And for those of you who say that original Spyro was "childish".... Look around. The average age of TLoS fans on this forum would have to be about 12 or 13, and there are quite a few kids under 10 who like it. Which is the age of most people on this forum when they first played the originals. Hmmm.

→ You are right. The 'children' on this website... some may have never played the original series, just the new. So when little kids play a game, and they like it, they say it's better than other games trying to prove a point. Yet, they should not be saying anything, because they have nothing to prove. It works just like teenagers and cell phone companies. Teenagers have a cell phone company that they have been using for a long time, and they say their company is better than everybody else's, even though they didn't try the other companies.

→ I say that some of them need to play the original series, so that they could find out why the series had a better storyline, why it had better gameplay, and see that it had more characters with completely different personalities that fit the character models. The makers of the original Spyro games seemed to have taken much more time making their series than the newer games.

→ But the Legend of Spyro series shows that all of the companies who created the games didn't take much time making them. Yes, the graphics and worlds may have taken time to make, but the gameplay was a kick in the face. I admit, though, I did like the cutscenes from the Legend of Spyro series, but killing endless amount of monkeys got very boring after a short amount of time. I also liked, in the original series, that I had to play the game for a very long time before beating it. In addition, the creaters of the old Spyro games put much more creativity into their games than what Krome and the others put into their new games.

→ When Dawn of the Dragon comes out, I hope it will be geared more towards an older audience than the Legend of Spyro series was. We know that in the pictures of Dawn of the Dragon, Spyro looks more like a dragon in his teenage years. But when it comes to gameplay, I don't want to have to kill a million monkeys to advance another 10 feet through the level.

→ Another aspect of The Legend of Spyro series, was the four elements that Spyro ends up mastering. In the old Spyro games, it was pretty fun to flame the enemies. Now, with the four 'elements', there is not much fun to killing enemies. It kind of destroys the dignity of a dragon who always breathed fire.

→ Don't take me wrong, because I still love Spyro. Like a brother.

ratchet wrote:

1.Face it, someone has to have atleast one bad quality, lets see, TLOS Spyro has absolutely none.Atleastr Original Spyro had Something wrong.

Off the top of my head: rashness (going into Mt. Malefor to save Cynder).

Huh? That's not a fault, it's a quality that fueled his nobleness. "Oh Spyro, you're going to put yourself in danger to save someone else, you're soooooooooo noble!"

Time to read up on Mary-Sues!

now, for all you people who seem to believe the series had to change to survive... think harder. the original series was declining because the quality of sequels was declining, that had nothing to do with the type of gameplay or the story, it had everything to do with the people responsible for the games after spyro 3 being incompetant careless morons, if they had put in as much effort to enter the dragonfly as has gone into tLoS then we'd still have spyro the way he was meant to be

[sub]Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

Also, who says the franchise had to "survive" at all? In my opinion, new Spyro is a completely different franchise that ripped off the name "Spyro", anyway. It's not that important that a character lives on; they could have just as easily created a new "special chosen dragon" to star in TLoS. Or then again, maybe not, because like Kazoobie64 said, all it has to do to sell is be a "Spyro" game. I wouldn't have looked twice at ANB had it not been titled "Spyro".

And for those of you who say that original Spyro was "childish".... Look around. The average age of TLoS fans on this forum would have to be about 12 or 13, and there are quite a few kids under 10 who like it. Which is the age of most people on this forum when they first played the originals. Hmmm. [/sub]

1.Face it, someone has to have atleast one bad quality, lets see, TLOS Spyro has absolutely none.Atleastr Original Spyro had Something wrong.

Off the top of my head: rashness (going into Mt. Malefor to save Cynder).

There may be other things, but they have not come out in an obvious way yet.

More will come later, but that is all I have time for at the moment.

*sheds a tear because that world is now*

but on a brighter note i will now do my impression of the average tLoS fan (its a stereotype, if its not you then dont be offended)

"youre stupid, it changed get over it"
"NO THEY WONT CHANGE BACK! THEY WONT THEY WONT THEY WONT!"

now, for all you people who seem to believe the series had to change to survive... think harder. the original series was declining because the quality of sequels was declining, that had nothing to do with the type of gameplay or the story, it had everything to do with the people responsible for the games after spyro 3 being incompetant careless morons, if they had put in as much effort to enter the dragonfly as has gone into tLoS then we'd still have spyro the way he was meant to be

heres the thing people, the change was stupid for this reason
it took away what made spyro unique, there wasnt really another platformer like it, still isnt in my opinion, mario galaxy would be closest, and whilst it has the bright happiness and to some degree the game play of the original spyro series, but it still hasnt captured the humour.

so to wrap up, heres a metaphor

original spyro
he goes to school and comes back fresh and happy, you cant help but love him cuz he's bright and cheery and cute

EtD
he's growing up but his not quite there yet, his awkward and clumsy and his voice is cracking

tLoS
hits puberty, slaps on the dark makeup and stays in his room 24/7, responds to anything resembling humour with "what-evar" and consistantly tells his birth parents (mr and mrs insomniac) that he hates them and he'll never grow up to be like them because "youre not the boss of me", and i guess thats fair enough since they did abandon him when he was kind of young

Flying UFOs... nope. That does not sound like a dragon to me.

Just because Spyro is a dragon, doesn't mean you have to make a game Resembling the stereotypical Dragon world.
This is what agrovates me, Everyone thinks cause Spyro is a Dragon "OMG TIZ A GAME BOUT A DRAGON IN A MEDI3V1L FANT4SY W0RLD", SPYRO WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THAT.

LIVE WITH IT!

Dont worry, there are 1000s of Spyro fan out there that share your opinion, but many say "Well you can expect change cause its a rebbot" blindly, but hello, THE BLOODY REBOOT IS THE THING WE'RE ANGRY ABOUT!
Many Games Change: Yeah, But they dont completely destroy what they originally were, creating a whole different thing is what different series are for. I mean, Just immagine that after the next Conker game they said "Ok, the series is gone to the crapper, why dont we make a game about a cute squirrel who lives in a forst and collects nuts and helps his fellow forest critters, i mean THAT WOULD SUIT THE WORLD FOR A SQUIRREL. I mean c'mon, A Dragon is a bloody creature of myth, how are we supposed to know what its world would be like! Mario has changed but has still kept What Mario was, they've kept all they're characters, the same storyline, the same items, the same enemies etc. I absolutely sdispise people who says things like "mario changed, but people still like him" because face it, he hasn't changed. The same goes for people who say "Spyro has grown up, you should too". I dont find TLOS "Grown up", its way to cliche for most adults to actually like the storyline, and the whole thing about "Spyro and Cynder trapped in time for 3 years and grow" is just plain silly, How can Someone grow in Ice, And they're trapped in TIME for god's sake.
Some people call The originals kiddy, but thats just cause they are searching of ways to ridicule the originals but fail miserably. I ask you to play something like Banjo Kazooie, the 3rd highest rated 3d platformer of all time that has a huge fanbase and then call Spyro Kiddy. Spyro was a game that appealed to all ages, many adults liked it, so did kids and teenagers.

Thank you!

How would you know.
People bought TLOS not knowing what to expect and dispite bad reviews, For what we know they could've thought that it was a game like the old spyro, just a prequel. I'm basicly saying that if they did release another console Platforming Spyro, It WOULD of sold well, as long as it was good.
Just cause ETD and AHT sucked pheces, doesn't mean other spyro games would.

TLOS is not what i call "improve"

1.Face it, someone has to have atleast one bad quality, lets see, TLOS Spyro has absolutely none.Atleastr Original Spyro had Something wrong.
2.Sparx has completely switched, he used to be Mainly for gameplay and small bits of narrative buts now all narrative. But anyhow, Sparx wasnt just a health bar, he also collected gems, you culd teach him abilities, he would host the speedway levels, and you can play as him in Spyro 3. To be honest, Sparx as he was in in the originals wouldn't work with TLOS as you defiently need a health bar, the same couldn't be said for the originals.
None the less, Sparx having a more in role does not say why the reboot happened, If the original spyro came back, i'm sure that they would take something from TLOS and make Sparx more involved.
3.Which we only learnt a few months ago. He's always been THe dark Master, only  handful of TLOS fans called him Malefor.

HAPPY 10TH BIRTHDAY, SPYRO!

But selling "any crap" clearly does not work for Spyro, as he was at the point of having to choose between change or extinction.

Mostly because everyone else gave up on it, these guys didn't let it rest in peace. To some, it is already extinct. These games are nothing like Spyro, so why should they be considered revivals of the "Spyro series?"

"A change" has endless possibilities, and a lot of them don't require completely exterminating the previous timeline. To me, whoever doesn't take the time to find a way to work with they already have and instead decide to completely reboot everything is just being lazy and disrespectful to what the other company established. I can already come up with something that could have been done to continue from Year of the Dragon, and it doesn't need all these things that we've seen a million times before in other videogames. Just that, a basis, then you sit down and work with it. Let's take Pixar. At the time of coming up with Ratatouille, they were probably in an elevator and thought "hmm, how about a movie about a rat that can cook?" What a crap-sounding basis, right? But they knew how to sit down and execute that idea and made it great.

Also, A Hero's Tail wasn't change? It seemed incredibly different to me. Spyro didn't even have the same personality. Not even the old one was that smug. Not that it was a good change or anything, I found it just as awful but at least more bearable than ANB and TEN. Button-mashing doesn't hold an interest to me for that long.

Do I really have to read that again? I already got sick reading it the first time.

So of course, we have to ignore every other dragon-like quality that Spyro had just because he does other silly things that based on only your interpretation, aren't dragon-like? Hey, a blue hedgehog that runs at the speed of light and wears shoes and gloves aren't very hegehoggy to me, maybe they should change that.

The fact that Spyro was a dragon back then was purely for the gameplay aspect. They wanted you to control something that glides, charges, breathes fire and the works. To match the fact that we're controlling a dragon we have to go into a fantastical sort of game and art direction.

I actually found it a lot more refreshing and unique that the Spyro back then wasn't treated as the typical MAJESTIC AND GRACEFUL creature that is the dragon. No, he's short, so he's at a disadvantage, but somehow, he's still a hero. He is treated as a normal being in a realm full of equally bizarre creatures, such as a flying penguin. Unfortunately, dragons themselves are a typical cliché, so making it like this sort of satirical cartoon-like game involving all the creatures you see a billion times in fantasy stories was a clever move. The game's attitute was "oh yeah, dragons, we get enough of those in literature. But as we can see in this game, they're just like you and me! See? That dragon there is being interviewed for a news show by some other dragon, look at the microphone and everything" and I loved it.

"Epic dragon" stories just kind of seem nerdy and annoying to me; it comes off in TLoS especially as trying too hard. I liked the originals because they had just the right level of seriousness versus sillyness, if that makes any sense. They didn't put any emphasis on things like Spyro being a "chosen one" or a "special purple dragon" or anything like that.

And as for Spyro "having to change," there wouldn't have been any need for that had it not been for games like ETD. T___T[/sub]

First, I KNOW there are a lot of people who like it, I'm on this forum, you know. However, since people who dislike the trilogy don't come on forums, most of you don't see just how many people actually dislike this series. Somethingawful forums, for example, look all you want, but you will not find a SINGLE person who likes it, I swear to you. The Let's Play Spyro thread has nothing but people talking about the old games and how awful the series are now. In lots of other places, people don't even remember that Spyro still exists beyond the first original games.

But selling "any crap" clearly does not work for Spyro, as he was at the point of having to choose between change or extinction.

Flying UFOs... nope. That does not sound like a dragon to me.

Source

There will never be character like Cynder agin,she is one of the best
female dragons there are.

Cyyyyyynderrrrrrrrr

--Ah! Um, what? Crap. Sorry, lost my train of thought there.

There will never be character like Cynder agin,she is one of the best
female dragons there are.Plenty of games have changed since they first
began the series.Sparx can somewhat help in TEN by sometimes showing you which way.

[sub]Well... I don't really like Cynder. Pretty much for this reason:[/sub]

[sub]It's true.... She's just so... emo.... And she doesn't do anything. =/

As for the "plenty of games have changed" thing: That doesn't mean I have to like it. -__-[/sub]

There will never be character like Cynder agin,she is one of the best
female dragons there are.Plenty of games have changed since they first
began the series.Sparx can somewhat help in TEN by sometimes showing you which way.

I disagree the female dragon in drakengaurd had much more persaonality

Kazoobie64 wrote:

Gwenio wrote:

(lets see, the old way loses customers and the new gains customers. Which would any company choose?)

LOL.

Enter the Dragonfly got Greatest Hits you know.

That just means a lot of people bought it, not that a lot of people liked it.

And... We were on the subject of sales so thank you for proving my point.

There are too many things wrong with this statement.

First, I KNOW there are a lot of people who like it, I'm on this forum, you know. However, since people who dislike the trilogy don't come on forums, most of you don't see just how many people actually dislike this series. Somethingawful forums, for example, look all you want, but you will not find a SINGLE person who likes it, I swear to you. The Let's Play Spyro thread has nothing but people talking about the old games and how awful the series are now. In lots of other places, people don't even remember that Spyro still exists beyond the first original games.

Second, being a Spyro game is not enough but it certainly helps. See: Sonic series and heck, see: Nintendo. Some people will buy any crap they give them just for the visual aspect or name. What is often the argument is that going back to the old timeline and evolving the old games to continue them will not produce good writing and a better game, which is totally far off from the truth. Look at how clever and great Sly Cooper's writing is, it has a clear unclichèd story, well-developed characters, yet the series still has an infantile and cartoony tone. What's the problem?

Third, hahaha what? Breathing fire and using his wings is not enough dragon for you? Freeing other dragons? What about all that "oh we used to have dragons here and now they're all gone and we need them to come back for magic" stuff. And oh yes, Elora and Hunter were totally not wanting a DRAGON to help them out of their predicament in Alavar, right?

I have no idea what you're talking about, but there's still people out there who are threatened by revertion to the old timeline, my point still stands.