Gwenio wrote:

fletch wrote:

so lets recap
tLoS fanboys/girls think old spyro had grown stale
-wrong, old spyro had fallen into the hands of crappy developpers who didnt successfully recreate the genre

Partly wrong, it was stale and dying whe the people who directed LoS began deciding the new dirction.

yes but it wouldnt have necessarily been in that position if it werent for the lame attempts that were made at keeping it alive, consider if insomniac had kept going with spyro, id be willing to bet he'd be all over the new consoles in his classic version right now, because insomniac knew what to do with him, it was their creation and they understood what to add to the series to make it interesting in every game, even though the gameplay was similar throughout the three, now i guess its possible that insomniac were the only people capable of making spyro games like that successful, but theres a lot of developpers out there, im willing to bet someone could replicate it correctly

The fisrst part is more problematic than your original statemant. Insomiac did not have a clue with what to do with him. They believed they had done everything that could be done with a being without hands. They said so themselves.

fletch wrote:

so lets recap
tLoS fanboys/girls think old spyro had grown stale
-wrong, old spyro had fallen into the hands of crappy developpers who didnt successfully recreate the genre

Partly wrong, it was stale and dying whe the people who directed LoS began deciding the new dirction.

yes but it wouldnt have necessarily been in that position if it werent for the lame attempts that were made at keeping it alive, consider if insomniac had kept going with spyro, id be willing to bet he'd be all over the new consoles in his classic version right now, because insomniac knew what to do with him, it was their creation and they understood what to add to the series to make it interesting in every game, even though the gameplay was similar throughout the three, now i guess its possible that insomniac were the only people capable of making spyro games like that successful, but theres a lot of developpers out there, im willing to bet someone could replicate it correctly

thats fair enough, we're all willing to accept the unlikeliness of it ever happening, but that doesnt mean we're gonna just give up because it will "probably never happen" we're passionate about it cuz it means something to us and i dont see anything wrong with that

so lets recap
tLoS fanboys/girls think old spyro had grown stale
-wrong, old spyro had fallen into the hands of crappy developpers who didnt successfully recreate the genre

Partly wrong, it was stale and dying whe the people who directed LoS began deciding the new dirction.

It is very unlikely, changing of the course only comes when the course does not work.

and yes doppel had been insulting but others have a good point, sometimes two wrongs dont make a right, a lot of the time they do in my opinion but in this case insults tend to warrant more insults, in the end it doesnt matter who starts it because if someone else keeps it goin then itll never end

as for GTA x Spyro, itd be a good spin-off game

you play spyro, he's new to the dragon realms... and he's really annoyed
some guy has stolen your fellow dragon's eggs, its up to you to work out who it was, and put a stop to his organisation of egg thieves

features
- hijack sheep, manta rays and in later stages UFOs
- 100s of different weapons and items, like the flamethrower (superflame) and jetpack (flight)
- the professor has his man hunter on the street, contact him and he'll give you jobs to earn gems, and get closer to taking down the thieves
- ripto the orb junkie is living in an alley, he's down on his luck but he sees a lot, bring him the goods to feed his habit and he might give you valuable information
- chat up hawt fauns who'll do you a special favour, for a price

spyro - "oh man, sparx is green, one more felony and ill have the peacekeepers after me"

ratchet wrote:

You'd like a Spyro game where you blow up Civillians and cars? Why dont you go play Grand Theft Auto because Thats now what Spyro was ever supposed to be like.

haha i wouldnt mind a spyro grand theft auto myself to be honest. It would be pretty fun.

i mean it would be pretty weird, Spyro on 2 feet with cars driving around and prostetute dragons and guns...... Not Spyro much?....

Oh and good points Fletch, your a far better explainer than me!

BTW, Doppel has been saying things to me like "How about a nice cup of shut your mouth up" so i think its only fair that Fletch can call Doppel an idiot

Good points, though.

spyromaster330 wrote:

By the way, i did read alot of the coversation so i actually do know what i am talking about. You really should stop calling people idiots if they disagree with you.

this is the only part i feel the need to defend myself against

yes i should not call people idiots

HOWEVER

as i said, it was in retaliation to doppel and A Guy who had themselves been insulting others, the main example of which is doppel's exclamation that went something along the lines of "you just dont like tLoS because you suck at it"

that and i was frustrated by every comment which pretty much came down to "haha the game you like sucks and is never coming back" either that or "my opinion is better than yours so you should shut up"

but regardless then i will retract my "idiots" statement and ask that i may replace it with "person or peoples acting in an idiotic fashion"

Thats ok i guess. I would get frustrated by that as well and i know that it was happening.

By the way, i did read alot of the coversation so i actually do know what i am talking about. You really should stop calling people idiots if they disagree with you.

I suppose i sound like a bit of a TLOS fangirl. Well im not. I like the origanal games almost as much as TLOS. For awhile i like the origanals more but im getting a bit bored of them so now i like TLOS more but i still love the origanals and i am actually played Spyro 2 right now. I also dont think that making a spyro game in old style is a step backwards im just saying that we can hardly go back to the old now, after this. But hey, i dont know whats going to happen after TLOS so they could make a game like the old ones. That would be fine with me.

You'd like a Spyro game where you blow up Civillians and cars? Why dont you go play Grand Theft Auto because Thats now what Spyro was ever supposed to be like.

haha i wouldnt mind a spyro grand theft auto myself to be honest. It would be pretty fun.

By the way Fletch_Talon. calling Doppel and A Guy idiots and morons is hardly good debating is it? No, its just a fantastic way to start a flame war. And what is so stupid about doppel saying we cant go back to the old? Its not stupid at all. Its true. You say that Doppel and A guy need to learn how to deal with other peoples opinions yet you call them idiots because they disagree with you. Thats hardly dealing with other peoples opinions now is it?

I'd love something like that

You'd like a Spyro game where you blow up Civillians and cars? Why dont you go play Grand Theft Auto because Thats now what Spyro was ever supposed to be like.

Lets take Mario, Lets just say that Nintendo said "Okay, Mario needs a change, lets reboot and start fresh". Lets just imagine Mario got changed into this dark game set in the middle ages where you get a gun and use combat moves, mario now looks like A propper human and features no other original characters (or the ones that there is, have Changed looks and personalities). Lets just immagine Mario was linear, there was next to no platforming or anything but fighting. And Lets just immagine if Nintendo kept this up and never looked back, even if Fans are disgraced.

DOPPEL, A GUY, DO YOU THINK THAT THE FANS WOULD WANT THE OLD MARIO BACK? WOULD YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULDN'T RANT THEIR HEAD OFF, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULD ARGUE WITH OTHERS EVEN WHEN THEY KNEW THAT THE OLD MARIO WASN'T COMMING BACK?

Sorry to act like yelling, but i'm kinda fed up with all these useless one liners like "you got owned" and "Originals gone, face it!".
IDONT CARE if the original spyro is gone or not, i have the right to say anything i want on the new games or what path i want Spyro to take so do me a favour and stop being annoying.

A Guy wrote:

Fletch_Talon wrote:

doppel, a guy, you are both idiots (is it flaming if its the truth?)

And what proof do you have of that? Just because you disagree with our arguments, it is no excuse to insult us.

look who's talking

Did I call you an idiot? No.

Look at the above.

I know it will be gone. You should get your facts straight before making presumptions.

Nothing lasts forever.

I'd love something like that. And even if I didn't, I wouldn't start a riot.

It's a figure of speech.

You're acting like a hypocrite with all the things you said about me.

Fletch_Talon wrote:

doppel, a guy, you are both idiots (is it flaming if its the truth?)

And what proof do you have of that? Just because you disagree with our arguments, it is no excuse to insult us.

look who's talking

i advise you to do the same

please, enlighten me, how in fact do you know, straighten my facts for me so to speak

that was aimed more specifically at doppel regarding his strange (yet i spose understandable) aversion to violent video games (he'smentioned in other threads that he broke a gta disc because he felt it was too violent)

and as for starting a riot, if you believe pointing out flaws in a game and stating our dislike for it is rioting you need to watch the news more

now see, hypocrisy doesnt suit you, it just further goes to prove everything i just went over, see for some reason in your head its makes perfect sense that

I (a guy) am allowed to "bash" old spyro as much as i want by simply saying it sucks

they (everyone else) are not allowed to say anything bad about tLoS because i think its good... NO just no its not allowed,i dont careif they are speaking of their own opinions or that they are actually giving reason to their arguments its just not allowed

youre a hypocrite A Guy and trying to make me look like one goes to show that you obviously dont read too well either, I do not decline people their opinion on the game, they are welcome to it, whether they love it or hate it, butif theyre gonna be immature little prats about it and just say it sucks and isnever coming back because thats what they want then franklythey dont deserve an opinion