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Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Aicebo) — Sun, 01 May 2011 10:07:29 +0000

omg dari it's like 3 AM here and I almost burst out laughing at that picture
you're amazing

I'd also love to see some sort of screencap of the other text, though.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Swaffy) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:02:32 +0000

I leave all sorts of goofy messages when I'm editing the code in Battlefield
1942. I throw in a few jokes here and there. Or if something is annoying
me I'll leave a crafty little joke. No one playing the game will see it, but if
they open up the .RFA files, they'll find my little messages. Sometimes I'll
make them when I get mad at issues that come up.

ObjectTemplate.create RotationalBundle WillyNitroFrontRudder
ObjectTemplate.setNetworkableInfo WillySteeringInfo
ObjectTemplate.hasMobilePhysics 1
ObjectTemplate.hasCollisionPhysics 1
ObjectTemplate.hasResponsePhysics 1
rem rem rrrrreeeeeeemmmmmmmgh Remm Vremmmmghghghghg ghghghg Remmmmgh
ObjectTemplate.addTemplate WillyNitroRudder2
ObjectTemplate.setRotation 180/0/-90
rem rem rrrrreeeeeeemmmmmmmgh Vroom Vroom Rooomgh Vroomgh
ObjectTemplate.setMinRotation -30/0/0
ObjectTemplate.setMaxRotation 30/0/0
ObjectTemplate.setMaxSpeed 200/0/0
ObjectTemplate.setAcceleration 50/0/0
ObjectTemplate.setInputToYaw c_PIYaw
ObjectTemplate.setAutomaticReset 1

rem      I like cheese!

ObjectTemplate.create HandFireArms Thompson
ObjectTemplate.itemIndex 3
ObjectTemplate.networkableInfo HandFireArmsInfo
ObjectTemplate.projectileTemplate ThomsonProjectile

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (prince-Dari) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:05:36 +0000

SYSTEM.CNF is a file all PSX game have I think. It basically just says which file is the PSX-Exe.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (LXShadow) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:21:15 +0000

I can verify this as far as "It's not in the game's memory during gameplay" goes. The only thing I've found in memory is its filename, and it's never read. (SYSTEM.CNF is also there, and that also is a file that a game doesn't normally read.) Basically the game doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.

In my opinion, the message is nothing more than a bit of fun by Insomniac. It might be even less significant than a dummy file. It's easy for someone to say that Spyro 3 was part of some elaborate scheme to turn us all into mindless zombies; but in reality, hidden messages like this aren't uncommon in games - especially their code.

Sometimes the developers take it too far as well. If you don't like expletives, I wouldn't recommend looking too hard through Spyro 3's code!

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (prince-Dari) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:45:09 +0000

I've had a look, but I haven't found it anywhere yet.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (36IStillLikeSpyro36) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:25:46 +0000

that's my wallpaper now.

still, can anybody verify that the original "brainwashing" text actually appears in the game? o.o

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (prince-Dari) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:11:37 +0000

Changing the text in it doesn't cause any problems in the game - it runs fine.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (LXShadow) — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:54:41 +0000

Stormy wrote:

So if someone were to, say, change the text of that file or delete it altogether, would the game still work?

I just tried to do this, but for some reason none of my programs want to leave a valid image file in any case (even if I don't change anything). D'oh!

I did notice, though, that the file had a high LBA (probably the highest of all the files). That means that it's on the very edge of the disc image - this is normal for a dummy file as it prevents interference with other files. With that in mind, I can doubt that deleting the file would really make a difference to the game.

Until I can actually try it out, though, I can't prove 100% that Insomniac isn't brainwashing us.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Swaffy) — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:02:06 +0000

The word shemp.

http://www.fakeshemps.com/FSsplain.htm

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Stormy) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:30:35 +0000

KingLambdaThePolish wrote:

*stumbles into this thread to discover he's been impersonated by Stormy*
Back on topic... I bet they're trying to brainwash us all. Only reasonable explanation.

You call that on topic? BANNED!

LXShadow wrote:

I've seen this message a few times. I think it's supposed to be a dummy file to use up some unneeded space on the disc (and maybe some other related stuff - copy-protection perhaps?). Normally companies just use null data for this, but apparently Insomniac wanted to be a bit more creative than that. =P
I don't know where all this stuff about subliminal messages came from, though. I can say myself that this text doesn't appear in Spyro 2 or 3's memory during gameplay - so we're probably not being brainwashed.
I think I also once knew what being "shemp'd" meant, but I can't find any sources of it anymore. I think I remember seeing an interview where it was eventually explained where Dr. Shemp got his name, and it had something to do with an office joke at Insomniac. I don't remember the details, but basically, "getting the shemp" or "getting shemp'd" (can't remember) wasn't a good thing.

Hm... interesting.
So if someone were to, say, change the text of that file or delete it altogether, would the game still work?

As for the shemp thing, the only definitions I could come up with were Shemp Howard (an actor in The Three Stooges) and fake shemp (explained here).

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Latias fan) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:24:03 +0000

Jackson117 wrote:

Brainwash us to love Cynder

My hate is to great for that to work on me.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Clock-la) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:03:41 +0000

Jackson117 wrote:

Brainwash us to love Cynder

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- D:

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (36IStillLikeSpyro36) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:51:48 +0000

i'll believe that the file exists, but i kind of won't believe it actually appears in-game until someone can provide some kind of proof. i've seen plenty of Spyro videos, and played it a number of times, and i've never seen anything

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (Swaffy) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:46:38 +0000

LXShadow wrote:

but apparently Insomniac wanted to be a bit more creative than that. =P

You see, that's what I liked so much about Insomniac. The people who
worked for that company were just so creative. You don't see creativity
like that in any of these modern game-making companies.

Re: Spyro - A Source of Conspiracy and Mind Control?

dummy@example.com (LXShadow) — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:08:18 +0000

I've seen this message a few times. I think it's supposed to be a dummy file to use up some unneeded space on the disc (and maybe some other related stuff - copy-protection perhaps?). Normally companies just use null data for this, but apparently Insomniac wanted to be a bit more creative than that. =P

I don't know where all this stuff about subliminal messages came from, though. I can say myself that this text doesn't appear in Spyro 2 or 3's memory during gameplay - so we're probably not being brainwashed.

I think I also once knew what being "shemp'd" meant, but I can't find any sources of it anymore. I think I remember seeing an interview where it was eventually explained where Dr. Shemp got his name, and it had something to do with an office joke at Insomniac. I don't remember the details, but basically, "getting the shemp" or "getting shemp'd" (can't remember) wasn't a good thing.